I've given up this in Mozilla, but not in Phoenix. We have the button already, now let's make it visible by default! It should be the fifth button: [Back] [Forward] [Reload] [Stop] [HOME] mpt: “There isn’t a “Home” button on the toolbar [in Mozilla], for quickly returning the browser to our home page when a customer has finished. Indeed, it’s not even an option (not that the existence of an option would be an excuse for the poor default).” mpt: “The [lack of a Home button in Mozilla] is especially astounding, since it’s a deliberate design decision by Netscape, so it’s not likely to change soon. Currently there is an optional “Home” link on the “Personal Toolbar” (Mozilla’s stupid name for the bookmarks bar). But that would be a waste of both time and space, since it would be a smaller target than a toolbar button, on a bar which we weren’t using for anything else.” Mike Palumbo: “Every other browser, including every other Netscape browser, had home in the main toolbar. So does Chimera, Opera, IE, iCab, Galeon, K-Meleon, Konqueror, etc. Mozilla is the only one I can think of that doesn’t.” Chad Lundgren: “I considered using Netscape 6 when it came out. The deal-breaker for me was the home button, or, to be more precise, the tiny, misplaced thing they shriveled it into.”
Appearantly, IE uses the following order: [Back] [Forward] [Stop] [Reload] [HOME] Maybe that's better than my original suggestion?
leave it unvisible please
Care to explain why? Maybe it's easier for the thousands of Mozilla users to hide the Home button than it is for the *billions* of former IE/Opera/Netscape4.x/Konqueror/K-Meleon/[InsertBrowserNameHere] users to find it in the first place?
billions? Don't exaggerate. Also, do advocacy, usability studies, and real world studies outside of the bugsystem, please. /be
I ment tens of millions, sorry. I don't think I need usability studies to back that up.
So everything IE does should be imitated by Phoenix, because tens of millions of people use IE? Of course not. There must be a better, particular argument for or against a particular feature. Let's please get beyond this "every other browser [that people in comment #0 like] does it", and find data for or against Home, in the newsgroup or phoenix talkback on mozillazine.org. /be
My point was not only that most people are used to this, but also that it's easier for an average user to find this frequently used button if it's there by default. Anyone not wanting the Home button there (most probably a former Mozilla user) will have no problem removing it, but a former IE user (for example) may ask around in newsgroups about this button. I've seen it already in the MozillaZine N.G's for Phoenix, which is only little over a week old.
I spoke with the Module Owner and Module Peer and the decision is that we're not going to do this.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 16 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
Interesting. Some things just aren't ment to change, huh? Again, a motivation would be nice. Also (and execuse me for my ignorance), who is the Module Owner and Module Peer?
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---
David Hyatt just fixed this, so it should be FIXED, not WONTFIX. Asa, I don't need the motivation for WONTFIX'ing this anymore. :)
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 16 years ago → 16 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
verified fixed in 0.4 cycle
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
Target Milestone: --- → Phoenix0.4
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QA Contact: asa → bugzilla
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