Home button should be visible by default

VERIFIED FIXED in Phoenix0.4

Status

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Firefox
Toolbars and Customization
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enhancement
VERIFIED FIXED
16 years ago
11 years ago

People

(Reporter: djst, Assigned: David Hyatt)

Tracking

unspecified
Phoenix0.4
Points:
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Firefox Tracking Flags

(Not tracked)

Details

(Reporter)

Description

16 years ago
I've given up this in Mozilla, but not in Phoenix. We have the button already,
now let's make it visible by default! It should be the fifth button:

[Back] [Forward] [Reload] [Stop] [HOME]

mpt: “There isn’t a “Home” button on the toolbar [in Mozilla], for quickly
returning the browser to our home page when a customer has finished. Indeed,
it’s not even an option (not that the existence of an option would be an excuse
for the poor default).”

mpt: “The [lack of a Home button in Mozilla] is especially astounding, since
it’s a deliberate design decision by Netscape, so it’s not likely to change
soon. Currently there is an optional “Home” link on the “Personal Toolbar”
(Mozilla’s stupid name for the bookmarks bar). But that would be a waste of both
time and space, since it would be a smaller target than a toolbar button, on a
bar which we weren’t using for anything else.”

Mike Palumbo: “Every other browser, including every other Netscape browser, had
home in the main toolbar. So does Chimera, Opera, IE, iCab, Galeon, K-Meleon,
Konqueror, etc. Mozilla is the only one I can think of that doesn’t.”

Chad Lundgren: “I considered using Netscape 6 when it came out. The deal-breaker
for me was the home button, or, to be more precise, the tiny, misplaced thing
they shriveled it into.”
(Reporter)

Comment 1

16 years ago
Appearantly, IE uses the following order:

[Back] [Forward] [Stop] [Reload] [HOME]

Maybe that's better than my original suggestion?

Comment 2

16 years ago
leave it unvisible please
(Reporter)

Comment 3

16 years ago
Care to explain why?

Maybe it's easier for the thousands of Mozilla users to hide the Home button
than it is for the *billions* of former
IE/Opera/Netscape4.x/Konqueror/K-Meleon/[InsertBrowserNameHere] users to find it
in the first place?
billions?  Don't exaggerate.  Also, do advocacy, usability studies, and real
world studies outside of the bugsystem, please.

/be
(Reporter)

Comment 5

16 years ago
I ment tens of millions, sorry. I don't think I need usability studies to back
that up.
So everything IE does should be imitated by Phoenix, because tens of millions of
people use IE?  Of course not.  There must be a better, particular argument for
or against a particular feature.  Let's please get beyond this "every other
browser [that people in comment #0 like] does it", and find data for or against
Home, in the newsgroup or phoenix talkback on mozillazine.org.

/be
(Reporter)

Comment 7

16 years ago
My point was not only that most people are used to this, but also that it's
easier for an average user to find this frequently used button if it's there by
default.

Anyone not wanting the Home button there (most probably a former Mozilla user)
will have no problem removing it, but a former IE user (for example) may ask
around in newsgroups about this button. I've seen it already in the MozillaZine
N.G's for Phoenix, which is only little over a week old.

Comment 8

16 years ago
I spoke with the Module Owner and Module Peer and the decision is that we're not
going to do this. 
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 16 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
(Reporter)

Comment 9

16 years ago
Interesting. Some things just aren't ment to change, huh? Again, a motivation
would be nice.

Also (and execuse me for my ignorance), who is the Module Owner and Module Peer?
(Reporter)

Comment 10

16 years ago
Reopening.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---
(Reporter)

Comment 11

16 years ago
David Hyatt just fixed this, so it should be FIXED, not WONTFIX.

Asa, I don't need the motivation for WONTFIX'ing this anymore. :)
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 16 years ago16 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED

Comment 12

15 years ago
verified fixed in 0.4 cycle
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
Target Milestone: --- → Phoenix0.4
Taking QA Contact
QA Contact: asa → bugzilla

Updated

11 years ago
QA Contact: bugzilla → toolbars
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