176230 - bookmarks "file bookmark" dialog doesn't work as expected

Status: VERIFIED DUPLICATE of bug 76525

(SeaMonkey :: Bookmarks & History, defect)

Description

[Misha Kruk]

Bookmarks, file bookmark, new folder "startup", put bookmark in there
go to a different page
Bookmarks, file bookmark -- folder startup looks selected (different icon) so I
just press OK button, but the bookmarks does not go to the folder startup, but
rather ends up in root list.

Comment 1

[Wesha]

Folder startup doesn't "look selected" for me on step 2, so I don't see the bug
here.

WFM 2002102208/NT4

Reporter: Novice users are strongly discouraged of using Advanced Bug Entry Form. 
Please use Bugzilla Helper to report future bugs:

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided

Comment 2

[Misha Kruk]

It does seem selected to me, here is the screen shot:
http://polkan2.dyndns.org/~meshko/mozilla/bk.jpg

Wesha: expert users are strongly discouraged from being rude to novice users. If
expert users want novice users to use one form instead of the other, they should
make sure that novice users get it by default.

Comment 3

[Wesha]

Misha: Bugzilla Helper _IS_ selected by default (both Mozilla top menu -> QA ->
File a bug  and  www.mozilla.org -> Report A Bug) lead to Bugzilla helper. Could
you please explain how you bypassed it and went straight to Advanced form? It's
still unclear to me.

Regarding the bug: the screenshot you provided shows "open" folder (i.e. the
tree of folders in it is uncollapsed), not "selected" folder. *Selected* items
have dark (gray, blue ...) background, depending on theme. 

Thus, though it might be considered a bad UI example, I'm tempting to mark it
INVALID since it's not actually a bug.

Comment 4

[Misha Kruk]

on this page (http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=176230), on the
bottom, there is a link "new". I followed it from another bug report. Maybe this
means that I was assumed to be "expert user", but my bug report was not expert
enough. In which case I'd appreciate an explanation of what was missing from it.
I agree that this is not a bug now, but I still think that this should be fixed.
Notice that once a folder is selected (as in really selected, not the way I
meant it), there is no [normal] way to unselect it! The button to unselect it
(which is cryptically called "Use default") was added just for remedy this. 
So I suggest that 
a) new bookmark should go into the open, not selected folder. If the user
selected  "File Bookmark" instead of just "Add Bookmark" in the menu, she
probably wants to put bookmark into a folder, not in the root. Chances are, she
wants to put it in the same folder as before.
b) The "use default" button can be removed
c) the list of folders height must be increased (while we are at it)

Is bugzilla wrong place to submit enhancment suggestions like this?

Comment 5

[Chris Lyon]

Misha,

For future reference, the bug reporting guidelines are located at
http://www.mozilla.org/quality/bug-writing-guidelines.html 

Your original bug is bug 76525, where folders with no child folders could be
opened.  This gives the illusion that these folders are somehow selected, but
you'll notice you can open more than one.

Yes, enhancement suggestions belong in Bugzilla (see the Enhancement severity),
but please do a query to make sure these issues have not already been reported:
a)Dupe of bug 75452
b)Dupe of bug 113666   
c)Dupe of bug 146859

Please keep separate issues in separate bug reports.

Thanks



*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 76525 ***

Comment 6

[Wesha]

Misha,
thanks for pointing the "New bug" link out. We actually have bug 158353 for
that, but the fix is still under development.

You _can_ submit enhancement requests here. Just create a new bug (one bug
should carry one issue only; if you have several issues to report, file a few
bugs) and select severity=enhancement in appropriate dropdown box. However,
please do a little research before submitting your bug, because, given that
176.000 has been reported already, the odds are good that your idea is already
sin somewhere. In this case, look at the bug 113666 and the bugs referenced
inside it. Do they describe what you want to suggest? If they do (even if not
with 100% accuracy),just add your comment to the existing bug (though remember
that this is NOT a forum, so try to make it tight and useful; no flame wars here
please); otherwise, file a new bug.

Thank you for your help in testing Mozilla!