178199 - Ctrl+B should open Bookmark Manager

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(Firefox :: Menus, enhancement)

Description

[Ilya Gulko]

Currently in Phoenix, Ctrl+B toggles the Bookmarks sidebar. However, Ctrl+B
opens the Bookmark Manager in Netscape 3.x, Netscape 4.x, Mozilla, and Netscape
6.x-7.x.

Comment 1

[David Tenser [:djst]]

-> WONTFIX.

I remember that Asa explained in the MozillaZine forums that this is
intentional, since the bookmark sidebar is more likely to be used by the end-user.

Comment 2

[Ilya Gulko]

Then, perhaps, Ctrl+Shift+B for the Bookmark Manager?

Comment 3

[David Tenser [:djst]]

Ok, reopening.

Comment 4

[André Dahlqvist]

Marking as NEW since I think this is a valid enhancement request.

Comment 5

[David P James]

A related request, bug 180026, requests adding a bookmark manager button to the
toolbar inventory. One or both of these should probably be implemented.

Comment 6

[Blake Ross]

-> pch

Comment 7

[Blake Ross]

-> pch

Comment 8

[Simon Paquet [:sipaq]]

Taking QA Contact as designated owner of Firebird-Menus. Sorry for bugspam.

Comment 9

[Pham]

Do you want this? or bug 212178

Comment 10

[Simon Paquet [:sipaq]]

*** Bug 212178 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 11

[Alexander Dietrich]

Attachment: Add Ctrl+M hotkey for Bookmark Manager

In Bug 212178 I chose Ctrl+M rather than Ctrl+Shift+B to open the Bookmark
Manager (let's go easy on the modifier combos). Other than that, this is
probably what you want.

Comment 12

[Mike Connor [:mconnor]]

*** Bug 214900 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 13

[Pham]

do you want to rename this bug or make a new patch?

Comment 14

[Ilya Gulko]

Maybe there could be an option to have Ctrl+B open the Bookmarks Manager 
instead of the Bookmarks sidebar?

Comment 15

[Alexander Dietrich]

I think such an option would be more work than it's worth, let's just add a
hotkey for the Bookmarks Manager and be done with it.

Ctrl+M is easier/faster to press than Shift+Ctrl+B, IMHO.

Comment 16

[Simon Paquet [:sipaq]]

Since Blake just added the additional Hotkey CTRL-I for the bookmarks sidebar
(because of IE compatibility), we could change CTRL-B to open bookmarks manager
instead.

This would confuse existing users, but since we're still miles away from 1.0 I
think this would be ok. Blake, Pierre, any comments on this?

Comment 17

[BugZilla User]

>> we could change CTRL-B to open bookmarks manager instead.

>> This would confuse existing users,

...not those fleeing from Mozilla; it's what we expect when we press CTRL+B...


*shrug*

Comment 18

[Jesse Ruderman]

IE for Windows also opens something resembing a bookmark manager when you hit
Ctrl+B.

Comment 19

[Pham]

Comment on attachment 129011 [details] [diff] [review]
Add Ctrl+M hotkey for Bookmark Manager

reassign ctrl+b to bookmarks manager and advertise ctrl+I for bookmarks sidebar
would be better because it's more IEish and more familiar to the more populous
population of IErs and Seamonkeyers

Comment 20

[Joachim Noreiko]

What's happening with this bug?
Bookmarks manager window could really do with a shortcut key.

(FWIW: M won't do on OS X, it's used for minimize window)

Comment 21

[Tim Connors]

(In reply to comment #20)
> What's happening with this bug?
> Bookmarks manager window could really do with a shortcut key.
> 
> (FWIW: M won't do on OS X, it's used for minimize window)

There is no shortcut listed for "manage bookmarks".

This is definitely broken -- most users don't want to see a sidepain^H^Hne as
claimed -- they want to be able to manipulate and use their bookmarks.

Unfortunately, it seems the history-in-a-window behaviour has been nixed.  Why?
 Why break age-old netscape behaviour?  That was far more usable than the
**** solution we have now?

Comment 22

[Patrick]

A bug from 2002, which handles a tiny element. How it's possible that It hasn't solved it already. 

I think it's clear. There a two resolutions for this issue

CTRL-I wil be maintained (for IE-users) and CRTL-B will be the bookmark manager (because we don't need two shortcuts for the same action)

or

We break with IE and:
CTRL-I will be disabled
CTRL-B leave it as it is
SHFT-CTRL-B open the bookmark manager

can someone please decide what to do (after four years).

Thanks

Patrick

Comment 23

[Mike Connor [:mconnor]]

Accel+B = Bookmarks Sidebar
Accel+Shift+B = Organize Bookmarks

This is not going to change further.

Comment 24

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

(In reply to comment #23)
> Accel+B = Bookmarks Sidebar
> Accel+Shift+B = Organize Bookmarks
> 
> This is not going to change further.

I believe you meant wontfix. Updating status accordingly.