1812234 - mailnews.default_view_flags = 0 (or 32) does not turn off threading

Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 1872595

(Thunderbird :: Folder and Message Lists, defect)

Description

[[e-mail]]

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/102.0

Steps to reproduce:

SIMPLY PUT
I WANT THE THREADED VIEW SORT BY DEFAULT SWITCHED TO OFF ACCROSS ALL FOLDERS

Actual results:

SORT ONLY WORKS ON EXISTING SELECTED FOLDER - AND ONLY TEMP

mailnews.default_view_flags = 0 (or 32) DOES NOT DO ANYTHING

FOLDER ALWAYS DEFALTS TO THREADED VIEW

Expected results:

TURN OFF TREADED VIEWS GLOBALY

THIS MAKES IT LITERALLY IMPOSIBLE TO SEARCH FOR A MESSAGE AS THEY ARE ALWAYS GROUPED BY THREADED

Comment 1

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

It would be helpful to reference your prior report(s).

Please don't type all in upper case.

THIS MAKES IT LITERALLY IMPOSIBLE TO SEARCH FOR A MESSAGE AS THEY ARE ALWAYS GROUPED BY THREADED

Searching is trivial when using global search. Perhaps you mean filtering, or visually scanning message lists?

Comment 2

[Anje]

This seems to be a Support question which should be asked in the Thunderbird Support Forum. This forum is not for providing support.

Agree, developers choosing the default as threaded has been a real nuisance to many folk and has caused much confusion for people who have never used threaded view causing all sorts of issues including clicking on email only to find they now have loads of emails opening in loads of tabs. As these people never used threaded view, they had no idea clicking on email in a collapsed thread would open everything within that thread. Setting as threaded by default should not have been considered as ok, but that is just my view point.

Basically, this question has been asked several times before and the following information was provided.

mailnews.default_view_flags = 0

This setting should mean when you create a new folder it is auto not threaded.

For all other folders that are already created:
Set eg: Inbox

• View > Sort by > unthreaded

Then apply this setting to all other folders.

• right click on column headers to see drop down menu.
• Select the one at the bottom - Apply current view to -> Folder and it's children -> select the account name folders.

Hope this assists your situation.

Comment 3

[[e-mail]]

Ok in all fairness :

Then apply this setting to all other folders.

right click on column headers to see drop down menu.
Select the one at the bottom - Apply current view to -> Folder and it's children -> select the account name folders.

was already tried and DOES NOT WORK.

next most mail clients have a defult setting to work either way

since it is agreed that this is an issue (not a support issue but programming issue)

really need a feature where defaulted threaded views are on or off and then an 'update all folders' option when set to sort out whatever the update changed automatically when this was implemented?

it seems updates / upgrades always seem to go only in one direction without regard to the end user.

when a 'New Feature' is installed the end user should be allowed to manually turn it on, not have it forced on.

this seems to be an extention of the microsoft way of programming ?

please and thanks.

Comment 4

[[e-mail]]

How much to get this fixed ?

Comment 5

[Anje]

Possible cause of setting not sticking - If you have set folder to use view > Sort by > 'unthreaded' , but each time you restart Thunderbird, the folder reverts to being 'threaded' then please check to see if you have cleanup software like Anti-Virus or CCleaner or Wisecleaner which is auto deleting session files. If you use any program that offers a cleanup files type of process then advise you access the relelvant program and make an exemption - no access to thunderbird profile folder.

Comment 6

[[e-mail]]

again how much to get a global thtread view off option

none of the quick fixes work and having to change over 600 folder not to mention every search is unacceptable

office and other web clients have this option built in by default

restarting has nothing to do with this, and the option does work, but every new folder defaults to threaded views on not to mention the other 500 folder i have to deal with.

more then happy to donate

this issue has been out there since tb version 102 (just google it)

so again how much ???

Comment 7

[[e-mail]]

please note i am an ISP and just migrated a new customer onto thunderbird and this is there only complaint?

here to help

and want nothing for free (fyi)

Comment 8

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

To answer your question, there is no targetted funding of fixes.

next most mail clients have a defult setting to work either way

There is not here. Anje has asked reasonable question in comment 5.

Comment 9

[[e-mail]]

Ok is this going to get looked at

multiple multiple multiple requests to get a global sort by threaded default OFF

that includes ALL searches CTL+K etc etc etc

see :
https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/sort-by-thread-view-off-function-to-change-for-all-folders/idi-p/13324

I am not the only one, go through this and you will see this is driving everyone crazy

I find it disappointing that a defect has yet to be confirmed ?

again love to donate to get this fixed once and for all.

please advise

Comment 10

[[e-mail]]

Ok since this ticket / issue has yet to be addressed and as a programmer i appreciate that you guys are busy

can someone please point me on instructions on how to :

download the x64 code source for 102.10.1
which compiler/assembers is required
basic instructions on how to compile a local copy of thunderbird

I lost another 8 hours this morning when organizing folders, when i move a folder sorted by unthreaded to a different location the treaded views got turned on again.

folder by folder views are just not working.

To resolve this issue i will just compile and patch a local copy of thunderbird and deal with this issue accordingly.

please note that this is being asked because threaded default has been getting asked going back to 2018 ?

Comment 11

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

can someone please point me on instructions on how to :

From https://www.thunderbird.net/ to https://www.thunderbird.net/get-involved/#development

Comment 12

[[e-mail]]

thanks

Comment 14

[[e-mail]]

please note that this must work as default for new folders created

when i create a new folder it defaults back to thread views and the default folder layout

it should probably be suggested that when making a new folder you take the setup from the inbox folder (or at least prompt to do so)

this way adding a folder does not take 30 minutes to figure out

also not related but a neet feature that when you create a new folder, it remembers thatnew folder for the next move to or copy to function, in most cases when creating a folder i am then doing so to move files from my inbox to that new folder.

Comment 15

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

Is this a regression? Did it work prior to version 102?

Comment 16

[Hartmut Welpmann [:welpy-cw]]

(In reply to [e-mail] from comment #3)

Ok in all fairness :

Then apply this setting to all other folders.

• right click on column headers to see drop down menu.
• Select the one at the bottom - Apply current view to -> Folder and it's children -> select the account name folders.

was already tried and DOES NOT WORK.

This should be fixed now that the patch for bug 1872595 has been uplifted to ESR 128. See also bug 1829737 for a simple GUI solution that will be available in the next major ESR and Thunderbird 136 release.