Closed Bug 1852793 Opened 1 year ago Closed 1 year ago

TB v115 small icon is barely distinguishable from Signal

Categories

(Thunderbird :: Untriaged, defect)

Thunderbird 115
defect

Tracking

(Not tracked)

VERIFIED WONTFIX

People

(Reporter: bughit.github, Unassigned)

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Steps to reproduce:

Minimize TB 115.2.0 to tray

Actual results:

The new small icon is barely distinguishable from the Signal icon.

Expected results:

A better, more distinct icon.

exactly the icons are too similar to each other and very confusing. pinned to the taskbar and on the quick launch bar as well

They look pretty distinguishable to me. But seriously, whether or not they're similar, we would certainly never change our icon for this reason. It makes 0 sense.

Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 1 year ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX

They look pretty distinguishable to me

Did you look at the small icons I posted? Blue circles with white centers. This is just gaslighting.

But seriously,

Oo, so when you said "They look pretty distinguishable to me" you were joking. Good one. You're ready for standup.

we would certainly never change our icon for this reason. It makes 0 sense.

The Signal icon preexisted the new TB icon by years. You then changed TB icon to be barely distinguishable from it. Considering the purpose of a tray icon is to help the user identify the app to restore, choosing an icon that's this close to another popular app is what "makes 0 sense", as does your irrational defense of this user hostile change.

This needs a second opinion.

Flags: needinfo?(vseerror)

Not that I have decision making power, but don't see us changing our icon, on which real dollars were spent, just because of similarity to one of a thousand other applications.

Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
Flags: needinfo?(vseerror)

Not that I have decision making power

So who has decision making power?

on which real dollars were spent

Is everything you spend money on, by that fact alone correct and inviolable?

similarity to one of a thousand other applications

More sophistry. Signal is not some obscure application. It may be just as popular as TB and possibly more so.

Flags: needinfo?(alessandro)

It's unfortunate that at a small scale it might be confused if looked at a glance, but that's not a valid justification to change the icon. It's a completely different icon.
We did a lot of research and design explorations and the new icon is part of our new brand identity and it's here to stay for many years.

Flags: needinfo?(alessandro)

For unclear reasons Wayne Mery started emailing me privately. This is a public bug report and I have no interest in having a separate private conversation about it, so stop it.

first email:

I did not imply Signal was obscure. But even if Signal is more popular, that's not going to be a deciding factor.

second email (in response to Comment #8):

Hello bughit.

I'm sorry to have to say this, but now you have become arugmentive to the point of badgering.
There is a requirement for you to behave consistent with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=etiquette.html, even if you believe yourself to be correct and someone else is wrong.

I can clarify, that Alex as product owner has the authority to decide the disposition of your request. If you persist then the activity will be reported, with possible consequences to follow. We don't wish that to happen, especially considering all your other helpful activity.

Wayne

Since you linked to the etiquette doc, look what I found there:

No private email. Do not send comments on bugs by private email to users;

Are these rules just for peasants? If not, you're in clear violation, please report yourself.

(In reply to bughit from comment #9)

For unclear reasons Wayne Mery started emailing me privately. This is a public bug report and I have no interest in having a separate private conversation about it, so stop it.
...

Wayne

Since you linked to the etiquette doc, look what I found there:

No private email. Do not send comments on bugs by private email to users;

My private email was appropriately sent to you in my role as community manager for thunderbird about your behavior, not about the merits about this bug. I have no desire to discuss your behavior in public. Unfortunately that email lacked my signature identifying me as such.

Restricting further bug comments, because the decision has been made.

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