identifies Mozilla as Netscape 4.x try spoofing Mozilla as MSIE and see the difference If they get their system in order a whole lot of sites ought to be fixed, as they are the originator for a tool used on a lot of websites. see bug #185766 & bug 185767 These bugs are the reason I found this site I'll attach two screenshots: one with Mozilla as user agent, one with MSIE as user agent
Created attachment 110073 [details] screenshot with Mozilla userAgent user agent string used: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; da-DK; rv:1.3b; MultiZilla v1.1.33 (a)) Gecko/20021223 This is also how the websites in bug 185766 & bug 185767 behave
Created attachment 110074 [details] screenshot with MSIE userAgent & Mozilla cookie user agent string used: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) this is also how the website in bug #185767 behaves the website in bug #185766 works perfectly with user agent spoofing
OK - this is a danish company. Do you have a Dane that can contact them ??? Otherwise, I'll be happy trying to contact them. I know there's a form letter or something tech evangelism uses. Please give me directions on the form you'll want my contact to take.
Whiteboard: [TOOL][Web500 CMS]
workaround: Finally solved why these sites sometimes worked with user agent spoofing and sometimes not: You can get the websites depending on this tool to work under the following circumstances: 1) set the user agent to some kind of MISE 6 2) delete all cookies set by the site 3) (re)load the page !BUT! be sure *only* to have the server name in the URL bar Of course this is not an acceptable workaround as it involves user agent spoofing
Created attachment 110199 [details] screenshot with MSIE userAgent & no cookie this is a screenshot of the frontpage with user agent spoofing to MSIE 6 and making sure no cookies were present before entering the website
contact established. according to the contact person, the newest version ought to correct this problem and it seems so : try http://www.uni2.dk/ , so as their customers upgrades this ought to fix itself automagically. I'll keep an eye on things periodically.
Attachment #110073 - Attachment description: screenshot of webpage → screenshot with Mozilla userAgent
Attachment #110074 - Attachment description: screenshot of webpage → screenshot with MSIE userAgent & Mozilla cookie
Attachment #110199 - Attachment description: screenshot of frontpage → screenshot with MSIE userAgent & no cookie
All Web500 CMS sites behave the same in Windows and Mac versions of Mozilla.
OS: MacOS X → All
Hardware: Macintosh → All
I read somewhere, that in a situation like this, one should 1) file a bug against the tool 2) file bugs against all websites using the tool Do you want me to track down all sites still using older versions of this tool and file bugs against these ??? By the way, why don't they update their own site when a fix is available ???
Bjarne: thats what we do. see bug 85104 for instance.
workaround - updated 1) use the cookie manager to delete all cookies set by the site 2) spoof the user agent to MSIE 6 3) reload the main URL *without* anything else attached to it 4) reset your user agent to Mozilla Seems, that once sites using this tool has set their session cookies, they no longer do any checking on the user agent. Thus, except for the main page we are able to browse as ourselves and will thus turn up as Mozilla in the user agent logs :-)
OK - I've been through all sites on this page : http://www.web500.com/tempfiles/120.asp which is a list of references, as well as the recent news about new customers Schedule : 1) translate the evangelism form letter into danish ought to have been accomplished over this weekend 2) go through the sites one at a time but at most one a day I've reassigned the bug to myself, as I've had personal contact with them
Assignee: nitot → mozilla
Component: Europe: West → Other
OK - they have fixed their own homepage It now works in both Mozilla 1.6a and Safari on Mac OS X 10.2.8
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 10 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Product: Tech Evangelism → Tech Evangelism Graveyard
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