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Integrate tabs with bookmarks in the sidebar. Instead of having tabs appear below the toolbar, have them appear in the drawer. Each tab in the drawer will have a context menu to "Keep in Drawer" (similar to "Keep in Dock". If that is selected, it is equivalent to bookmarking the current page. When the user double-clicks on an existing bookmark, it turns into a tab. When the user links from a page that is a bookmark, a new subentry appears in the bookmarks bar (see "Bugzilla/Search for Bookmarks" in the example image). The new subentry is a tab, and browsing continues from there.
Created attachment 110973 [details] Mockup of an integrated bookmarks and tabs interface in the drawer Mockup done in photoshop. This is equivalent to having 4 tabs across the top, for "Werblog", "80211b", "Reiter blog" and "Search for Bugs". The shading on "Bugzilla" and the red arrows are to indicate that "Search for Bugs" is a tab that sprung from "Bugzilla" after the user clicked a link on "Bugzilla". The current tab is shaded blue, and the other tabs are shaded gray. I think maybe it's not so good to have shading on "bugzilla", maybe that's confusing.
Created attachment 111022 [details] hybrid #2 Taking into account feedback on the list, I have made a hybrid that combines the concept of dog-ears, bookmarks, the dock, and itunes into one package ;-)
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This seems like an incredibly confusing metaphor for normal users. First of all, people wouldn't understand what the name dog-ear is telling them. Also, what is the point in having a 'dog-ear' without it being loaded? I can't see a situation where that would be needed. Even though tabs may not be consisent with the interface guidelines, I think they are a lot more intuitive. People understand that they are for different views and there are different things in each one. Mixing this with bookmarks would confuse people. Also in your mockup the little arrows next to it resemble the arrows in the tree view below too much. At first glance for me, I thought that they were those arrows and you clicked on it to expand it. I think this metaphor shows promise, but it would have to be made more clear that they are not bookmarks. Maybe this metaphor should be combined with the ideas proposed in Bug #159510
The name "dog-ear" can be changed. It's the nomenclature proposed on the mailing list.
Created attachment 111324 [details] mockup #4 (QuickMarks NoToolbar) This is a mockup of the QuickMarks system. The QuickMarks system is best described at the moment by Jesse Widener's post http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/chimera/2003-January/016317.html This post implements most of Jesse's post, with the notable exception of the QuickMarks toolbar (not because I dislike the QM toolbar, but I didn't have time). Quickmarks are roughly equivalent to the "dog-ears" of the #2mockup, and also represent "shmoos" on a one-to-one basis. QuickMarks are application global, so that if all the Viewer Windows are closed, and then a new Viewer Window is opened, they are still there.
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Created attachment 111725 [details] mockup #5 -- universal drawer and two viewer windows The Universal Drawer and Two Viewer Windows. Everything in the drawer is application global. Sessions shows concurrent sessions. History is possibly, instead of having a disclosure triangle, you click on it and the Viewer Window displays the history. Or, you click the triangle, and it display the history there. I assume most people use history temporarily, then close it, so it doesn't interfere with use of Bookmarks and Concurrent Sessions. There is room for about 20 concurrent sessions before bookmarks are pushed off screen. Drag and drop is completely available (except into history)
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Tabs are popular and effective enough in both Chimera and Mozilla that I suspect it's unlikely they'd be changed so dramatically as this.
seeing as recent changes in Camino have moved things away from the drawers is this a WONTFIX? (even though the mockups look interesting)
i'm going to leave this open for discussion, but push it out
Target Milestone: --- → Future
Mike, Chris, Simon with the bookmark rewrite landed do you agree to fix this bug has WONTFIX ?
Interestingly, OmniWeb 5 does appear to implement something like this.
Clsoing bug as the original idea isn't aplyable to the current UI chnages concerning tabs and BM manager. Open a new bug with more updated ideas if necesarry.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 14 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
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