188738 - unchecked check new messages option will still check for new messages

Status: VERIFIED WORKSFORME

(MailNews Core :: Networking, defect)

Description

[lee]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021213 Phoenix/0.5
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030107, build 2003010922

new messages continue to be checked for on an imap server even though both
"check for new message..." options are unchecked in the advanced server settings
dialog.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
mail is delivered to a remote imap server.  from menu, select edit -> mail and
newsgroup account settings.  from the dialog, select server settings and click
on the "advanced" button.  in that dialog, uncheck all "check for new
message..." options. 
Actual Results:  
mozilla checks to see if new messages are present on the server.

Expected Results:  
mozilla should refrain from checking for new messages.

Comment 1

[lee]

umm, scratch that "click on advanced button" in steps to reproduce....  :)

Comment 2

[grylchan]

reporter,
when you say it still checks for new mesgs when does it check?
I'm curious what you are doing when 'new mail' appears.

If I follow your steps:
>uncheck all "check for new message..." options. 

I ran these scenarios using
current commercial trunk: rv:1.3b Gecko/20030113 on Xp and
7.01rtm : rv:1.0.2  Gecko/20030113 on win 2k

On a imap account using Nscp mesg server 4.15

1)Check both prefs (check for new msgs at startup, check every x mins),
  I set mine to 1 min, quit/restarted, logged in

After a min passes, I get new mesgs in my inbox for both builds.

2)I uncheck both prefs and from another mail account send a mesg to
  acnt that has both prefs unchecked.
After a min passes, I get new mesgs in my inbox for both builds.

probably a bug. there's a bug about needing to quit/restart (in
order for pref check x mins to take place)
that is affecting this bug, see bug 24594 

3) I uncheck both prefs, quit/restart/relogin, from another mail acnt, I
   send myself a mesg and wait 1 min

 I don't get new megs in my inbox for both builds

4) Same as step 3 above but I click on another folder than go back to inbox
 I receive new mesgs in my inbox for both builds.

5) I uncheck both prefs, quit, send a msg from another mail acnt to 
   this tst acnt, restart mozilla and login to mail

  I receive new mesgs in my inbox for both builds.

I am not sure where you are seeing your error. I agree that in all steps
we shouldn't be checking for new mesgs but this has been around for
a while. My steps all sound like bugs.

I haven't tested pop mail acnts. And I couldn't find any similar
bugs out there except a turbo related bug (i didn't have turbo on
when doing my test cases), see bug 143848.

Comment 3

[lee]

thank you for your extensive research.  i probably should have noted that the
checking for messages only occurs after initially manually checking for messages
after startup.  to re-state, after startup (with both "check for new
messages..." options turned off or "unchecked" ), new messages are not checked
by mozilla until i click get new messages.  after that, new messages are
automatically checked and downloaded from the imap server or appear in the imap
inbox message list. i run filters to sort mail and after arrival of a new
message which meets a filter critera the message will be downloaded and
deposited in a local folder according to the filter rules.  i cannot say how
much time elapeses between the actual arrival of the message to the server
before mozilla recognizes the new message and processes it.  i would think that
the message should not be processed or recognezed as new mail because both of
the "check for new message.." options are unchecked.

i should also mention that i run gkrellm which checks for new messages on the
imap server (it is set for check only and is not supposed to do anything else).
 i will turn that off and run some tests to see how (if at all) it effects the
behavior i observe.   more later when i get home to test...  thanks  :) 

Comment 4

[lee]

i created a new profile and unchecked "check for new mail..." options and
restarted mozilla.  behaves as expected.
created a completely different imap server account and instructed mozilla to
check for new messages on that server every minute and restarted mozilla.  both
servers behave as expected.
turned on gkrellm and activated "check for new messages" for the imap server
where mozilla is instructed to not check for new messages.  behaves as expected,
new messages do not automatically appear in the server inbox (unless prompted by
me :)

behaves as expected for me is while i am viewing the imap server's inbox it
should not check for new messages with "check for new messages..." options
unchecked.  it will check for new messages if i click on another folder then
click back on the inbox folder for that server.  i'm not sure if this is correct
behavior for a server which is told not to check for new messages, but this is
not my complaint and should be separate from this bug report.  in my default
profile, new messages would appear in the server's inbox and filters would run
on those new messages automatically without any interaction from me at all even
though the "check for new messages..." options were turned off.

i can only conclude that something horked with my default profile which causes
this unexpected behavior as i could not duplicate the unwelcome behavior with a
fresh profile.

i'm going to try to resolve this bug as "worksforme" but perhaps a new bug could
be filed for not checking for new messages upon viewing an inbox folder where
"check for new message..." options are turned off?  i would think that in this
case new messages should only be retrieved upon mouse click of "get new
messages" button or menu file -> get new messages or by ctl-t keyboard shortcut.

thanks for your help!  :)

Comment 5

[Stephen Donner [:stephend] Not actively reading bugmail]

Verified.

Comment 6

[kathyschristopher]

I second this bug.  When both "Check for new messages..." boxes under Server Settings are unchecked Thunderbird still does check messages.



Thunderbird 24.1.1 on Win8.1 Pro x64