User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030513 Mozilla Firebird/0.6 Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030513 Mozilla Firebird/0.6 Bugzilla still displays Phoenix instead of Mozilla Firebird on this page. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Browse to http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided Actual Results: Phoenix is displayed. Expected Results: Mozilla Firebird should be displayed instead. Firebird 0.6 will attract quite a few newbies. Some of them might want to submit bugs. Don't confuse them with the former name they might not be aware of. The description next to it should also be replaced to something like that: "Mozilla Firebird is the new fast und highly customizable standalone browser that will replace the Mozilla browser component. Bugzilla continues to use the former project name Phoenix in its database."
I think this should have been filed under Product: Bugzilla and yeah I agree entry should be changed so it doesn't confuse new users trying to file a bug.
Moving over to mozilla.org product (bugzilla product is not the right choice. See http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/describecomponents.cgi for an explanation) and confirming.
We don't make changes to bugzilla components just because end users want them Ben: this is the kind of bug you should have filed. that said. according to despot, hyatt owns mozilla/browser which is called Phoenix and the project page is Phoenix and the description says Phoenix. Also note that there is documentation on the website pointing to a bugzilla product named phoenix, and making this change without changing the related links will result in lots of bugs complaining about them being broken. Phoenix users have shown that they will file such bugs when simple things break (ref: useragent horkage). For the last Bugzilla product rename (Chimera=>Camino), I believe myk created some redirection code. Further, the branding page talks about firebird just being a codename and not for end user use. Blizzard: did i misread that page? We don't have a Seamonkey product in bugzilla, so why should we have a Firebird product? Things to consider: Renaming 'Browser' to 'Mozilla' or 'Gecko' and 'Phoenix' to 'Browser'.
We don't need to change anything here just yet. I'm working on a larger plan to get seamonkey xpfe out of browser into its own product and rename browser to describe the core services like gecko, necko, etc. that will live there. I think that the phoenix product will become "Browser" but I haven't gotten it all figured out just yet. Please don't make any changes for this bug just yet.
> Browser would contain core Gecko and Gecko embedding bugs, and Phoenix would be > the equivalent of MailNews, [...] Just to clarify, Browser and Phoenix would also be renamed appropriately.
This is really a very good long-term concept. However, this bug was meant to be short-term. I didn't mean to change "Phoenix" in the bugzilla database to "Firebird" because I knew that this would be far from simple. What I meant was to change the text on this single web page from "Phoenix" to "Mozilla Firebird" or just "Firebird" and alter the description next to it. Don't change the link, don't change anything in the database. Just have a description that states that bugzilla continues to use the former project name Phoenix in its database. Users could then find "Firebird" on this page and notice that it is referred to as "Phoenix" in bugzilla. Another option would be to change the description only. I mean, there should be a reference to Firebird just somewhere.
The description has changed to "Phoenix: Now known as Mozilla Firebird...". That's a start.
You shouldn't have done that. This broke http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/describecomponents.cgi among other places: Bugzilla Component Descriptions Please specify the product whose components you want described. Client Software Browser: (most common) Mozilla Browser project, including Composer and the Mozilla platform. This is not the place for problems with third party products. MailNews: The Mozilla Mail/News project, including the Address Book component (more info) Camino: Camino (formerly known as Chimera) is a native Mac OS X browser-only project. For more info, see http://mozilla.org/projects/camino/. Phoenix: Calendar: The Mozilla Calendar project (more info)
This was fixed a while back. The issues in comment #10 were resolved.