Change "HTML" to "HTML (rich-text)"

RESOLVED WONTFIX

Status

MailNews Core
Composition
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enhancement
RESOLVED WONTFIX
15 years ago
3 years ago

People

(Reporter: Daniel Wang, Unassigned)

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(Blocks: 2 bugs)

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Attachments

(2 attachments, 2 obsolete attachments)

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Description

15 years ago
Make UI messages about HTML more understandable.
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Comment 1

15 years ago
Created attachment 133560 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch for Thunderbird
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Comment 2

15 years ago
Created attachment 133561 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch for Seamonkey

portion based on mpt's comment in bug 28735
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Updated

15 years ago
Attachment #133560 - Flags: review?(scott)
(Reporter)

Updated

15 years ago
Attachment #133561 - Flags: review?(dmose)

Comment 3

15 years ago
I think the gain in understanding by explaining that HTML is a richer text
format than plain text is more than offset by the fact that no one wants to read
through these giant dialogs just to send a message.
OS: Windows 98 → All
Hardware: PC → All
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Comment 4

15 years ago
> When sending messages in HTML format and one or more
> recipients are not listed as being able to receive HTML
and
> If you know a particular recipient can receive HTML mail,
> uncheck the 'Send email as plain text (no HTML)' checkbox
> on the recipient's Address Book card

need to be changed as in Mozilla T-Bird and Mozilla Messenger the address book
has a drop-down menu for "preferred format", not check boxes.

change to:

 When sending HTML (rich-text) messages and one or more
 recipients are listed as preferring plain text.

 If you know a particular recipient can receive HTML mail,
 set the preferred format to "HTML (rich-text) on the
 recipient's Address Book card

shorter now :-)
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Comment 5

15 years ago
Created attachment 133600 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch for Thunderbird (2nd try)
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Updated

15 years ago
Attachment #133560 - Attachment is obsolete: true
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Comment 6

15 years ago
Created attachment 133601 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch for Seamonkey (2nd try)
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Updated

15 years ago
Attachment #133561 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #133561 - Flags: review?(dmose)

Comment 7

15 years ago
Imho those who don´t understand what HTML means also don´t understand what plain
text means, if they would do, they would choose HTML if they didn´t want plain text.
Also imho RTF ( Rich Text Format, I´ve never used it) is a safe text format,
not a security risk like .doc, .htm, .html, ....
I´m thinking this patch adds to the confusion, instead of clarification of fact.
Imho plain text (why plain?) is understandable, if you want something more, you
can choose the other option, at your own risk.
With "RichText" you are propagating the use of HTML Mail, imho one of the
biggest security risks. Maybe Mozilla gets it right, with sanitized HTML
displayed, but what do you do if a there is a bug?
People loving choice (technically) understand most of the preferences of
mozilla, those thinking configure options are bloat are choosing Firebird, and
for those the patch introduces bloat, too much words. Maybe this patch is needed
for Thunderbird as companion, but I´m not sure.
To close my rant, I like the difference of Mozilla and Firebird, there is need
for both. But don´t try to underestimate the brain of mozilla users.

Updated

15 years ago
Attachment #133560 - Flags: review?(mscott)

Comment 8

15 years ago
Comment on attachment 133600 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch for Thunderbird (2nd try)

I don't think this is the right thing to do. I prefer what we have now without
using the words rich-text, that will make some users think .rtf files
Attachment #133600 - Flags: superreview-
Product: MailNews → Core

Comment 9

13 years ago
I agree this would not be good; it could create confusion with RTF (which is
what Outlook uses if you select "rich text" format; Outlook calls HTML "HTML").
sorry for the spam.  making bugzilla reflect reality as I'm not working on these bugs.  filter on FOOBARCHEESE to remove these in bulk.
Assignee: sspitzer → nobody
Filter on "Nobody_NScomTLD_20080620"
QA Contact: esther → composition
(Assignee)

Updated

10 years ago
Product: Core → MailNews Core
Blocks: 889315
Wontfix per Scott's comment 8: superreview- for the idea.
Other comments also agree.

Users who are actually changing these settings will understand the meaning of HTML without further explanation. Adding (Rich text) whereever we have HTML can even cause confusion with the actual Rich-Text format (.rtf). Respective descriptions in the UI are already pretty long and not always easy to understand, so we won't make them even longer and harder to read.

Patches are obsolete. Nobody ever cared or commented in favor since 2003, no duplicates, 1 lonely vote.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 3 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
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