Closed Bug 227863 Opened 16 years ago Closed 16 years ago
User-Agent Header should make more sense
Thunderbird currently issues a fully qualified HTTP style user-agent for the User-Agent header in outgoing messages. i.e. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 We should really use a more user friendly user agent in outgoing: User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.4 (20031205) This is more consistent with the User-Agent strings used by apple, outlook, Lotus, etc. NOTE: This has no effect on the user agent string used for http requests by the mail client!
Now uses the following format: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5a (20031205)
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 16 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Do you know that many Anti-Spam Tools are using the UA for filtering ? You get currently a negative count (good) for a message send with Mozilla and TB
Matti - one of the most widely used such tools (SpamAssassin) no longer does any negative spam associations for particular UA, as of the latest version. The number of "good" UAs was dropping to nothing as spammers forged the ones that the filters look for. Other filters will adapt - they have to be updated to be useful anyway...
you are confused frank. This is an email header field and has nothing at all to do with the user agent used for http requests that show up on web logs. Please note that this bug is listed under thunderbird and not a browser.
mhh sure... aeh sorry.. It seems, that i mixed up 2 things. I read somewhere, that the browser UA will be changed too. Then I found today a posting with that bug linked. So i mixed up.. sorry.. i'm standing beside of me the last days.. I shouldn't try to "work normal" at the moment this won't work - I make a misteke after the other *huu*
Small additional notice. Outlook exists only for Windows, Apple software is also clear. TB exists under different operating systems. I would prefer to have a additional entry for the used OS like User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.4 (20031205) Windows User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.4 (20031205) Linux
How does this change make the user-agent "more user friendly"? What kind of (normal) user sees this header? The most important reason for this header is to gain enough information *for support and debugging purposes*. There're certain problems with a cross-platform, cross-OS program that depend upon the knowledge of the target system - but now you have make extensive queries before you may get down to the core problem. Especially those of us who "provide" some kind of end user support (via newsgroup or personanal mail) will be drastically hampered by this. Please consider restoring the full header. (There're already bugs filed for that, e.g. bug 230182.)
The new header looks good in my opinion. However, the operating system should be part of the UA header. example: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5a (20031219) Mac OS X or Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5a (Mac OS X/20031219) or Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5a (Gecko/Mac OS X/20031219) New bug for this issue?
There was checked in a patch yesterday which will include the operating system: http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&date=explicit&mindate=01%2F09%2F2004+15%3A40%3A00&maxdate=01%2F09%2F2004+15%3A42%3A00&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot Please take care that this bug is closed. Take a look at bug 230182 instead.
Note that the "Fix" for this bug has broken the ability to use the general.useragent.override preference. I have opened Bug 234224 that explains.
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