228192 - document.all prevents sending initial post in daum cafe (forum)

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: Korean, defect)

Description

[Erich 'Ricky' Iseli]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007

Since a few days, it's no longer possible to submit an initial post (starting a
thread) in daum cafe. This is caused by one single usage of document.all:

document.all("submit_check").innerHTML= "<center><b>Uploading message. Please
wait</b></center>"; f.submit();

[I've translated the korean text since I know it won't display correctly in
bugzilla]

So as you can see, before the form is submitted, a document.all will throw a
javascript error in Mozilla and stop the process. the "submit_check" this is
referring to is the following:

<div id="submit_check">

So it's easy to replace the document.all with a cross-browser and standard code
as follows:

document.getElementById("submit_check").innerHTML= "<center><b>Uploading
message. Please wait.</b></center>";f.submit();

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Log into a daum account
2. Choose one of your cafes (in the menu)
3. Choose one room of your cafe (in the menu)
4. Click the button "Write"
=> that's the first attachment
5. Write the message and press the button "Upload"
Actual Results:  
Nothing. A javascript error appears in the javascript console. It reads:

Error: document.all is not a function
Source File:
http://cafe11.daum.net/_c21_/bbs_write?grpid=wlU&fldid=DJg&move=%2F_c21_%2Fbbs_list%3Fgrpid%3DwlU%26fldid%3DDJg%26page%3D1%26prev_page%3D0%26firstbbsdepth%3D%26lastbbsdepth%3Dzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Line: 107

Expected Results:  
Submit the form

Note that daum.net is the most visited korean website, and #3 worldwide as shown
by alexa. http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sites?ts_mode=global&lang=none

Comment 1

[Erich 'Ricky' Iseli]

Attachment: Original page

This is an almost exact copy of the faulty page. I just changed the encoding
and added a base href.

Comment 2

[Erich 'Ricky' Iseli]

Attachment: Fix for this bug

document.all replaced with document.getElementById. By submitting the form, you
will get an error message (not all form data submitted), because normally this
page is nested deep in an array of frames and these probably hold some data
like userID etc...

Comment 3

[Erich 'Ricky' Iseli]

For contacting daum.net use one of the following ways:

[e-mail]
or phone: [phone]

Comment 4

[Jungshik Shin]

Have you contacted daum.net or shall I? 

Comment 5

[Erich 'Ricky' Iseli]

Jungshik, it would be great if you could. My Korean is not good enough for
explaining the issue and I think a Korean explanation would be so much easier
for them. In addition to the e-mail address given above, you might also use:
[e-mail] . Thanks for looking into this.

Comment 6

[Jungshik Shin]

Erich, thanks for the report. I'll contact daum. I wish I knew the email address
of the CEO of daum, who I'm pretty sure would be more interested in the
interoperability and the accessibility issues than his engineers (who are likely
to think that there's only one web browser in the world).

document.all("submit_check").innerHTML= "<center><b>Uploading message. Please
wait</b></center>"; f.submit();

So many Korean web sites are 'plagued' with such a simple error as the above
(and needless to say, a number of MSIE-specific non-standard tags and DOMs...)

Comment 7

[Erich 'Ricky' Iseli]

Jungshik, I've found the contact information of Daum CEO here:
http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/technology/2000/1027/acom.digital_elite3.html
(bottom of page)

Lee Jae Woong
CEO, Daum Communications
Age: 32
Favorite sport: Surfing - on the Internet
E-mail: [e-mail]

Comment 8

[Erich 'Ricky' Iseli]

From http://211.43.198.3/eng/index.jsp

Daum Communications Corp. is sponsoring Daum Foundation that supports youth
who'll lead the next generation. Continuous Campaigns for open communication
world with full of hope and Daum Day, the celebration of all Daum members.

Note the "open communication world" which seems to be a business goal. That
would include interoperability with other browsers.

Comment 9

[Jungshik Shin]

Erich, thanks for the address and some 'ammunition'(?!). Tomorrow, I'm gonna
write a long letter urging him to put into practice what he's been preaching.
Daum web site is not just ful l of MS-centric non-standard html and DOM but also
is unfriendly to people with disability (see http://www.w3.org/WAI). The
interoperability and the universal accessibility (regardless of the disability)
are closely related with each other and have been, are and will be at the heart
of the world wide web (as emphasized many times by Tim Berners-Lee, most
recently in his lecture at the British Royal Society)

Judging from his remarks on some social issues in Korea (privacy on the net,
human right, etc), he's a reasonable and open-minded guy who can make changes in
his sphere of influence. 

Comment 10

[Erich 'Ricky' Iseli]

Jungshik, the problem seems to be fixed already. However, there are other
problems with daum, bug 216634 for example, but there might be others. Since
they seem to care about user feedback (be it ours or the people who might have
complained about this very problem [this bug] let's continue with bugging them
with other problems at daum. I'll put together a list of the problems.

Oh, and Can you send me privately the message you sent to daum?