Closed Bug 230332 Opened 18 years ago Closed 18 years ago
Problem in Blogger blog entry frame
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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7a) Gecko/20040106 Firebird/0.7+ (aebrahim) Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7a) Gecko/20040106 Firebird/0.7+ (aebrahim) Using a TRUNK build of Firebird 0.7+, logging into Blogger and attempting to add a new entry yields the following puzzling behavior: - The second frame down the screen is supposed to have an entry area for the blog post. Instead, under the trunk build, there is no text entry area, and only a small graphical arrow is visible (which is a normal page element). - Pressing the graphical arrow causes the text entry box to appear, but everything else disappears. This appears to be strictly a trunk build issue, as the 0.8 branch build works properly on this page. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Go to http://www.blogger.com 2. Log into your account and edit a blog 3. See details box for more info Actual Results: See details Expected Results: See details
Can you save the page to your hard drive and see if the problem still occurs? If so, can you then post it here as an attachment?
Confirmed with Seamonkey trunk build 200410408, works in Firebird 0.7, regression.
code showing the problem : http://pascal.chevrel.free.fr/temp/bug230332/post_form.pyra.htm
code showing the problem : http://pascal.chevrel.free.fr/temp/bug230332/post_form.pyra.htm
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Component: General → Layout
Ever confirmed: true
Product: Firebird → Browser
Version: unspecified → Trunk
*** Bug 232310 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
The problem exists on Mozilla 1.7a on Windows 98 and Linux. It was OK on 1.6. pi
Still seeing it in recent mozilla and firefox builds, blogging is very important today and blogger.com is an important player in this field, requesting this to be a blocker for 1.7b, I shouldn't have to use IE to blog :-(
Severity: normal → major
<html><head><title>Post Form</title> </head> <body> <div style="border: 1px solid red; color: red"> <textarea style="height:100%;">textarea inside the div with height:100%;</textarea> The red border is a div with no relevant attributes or style. </div> </body></html>
I don't see how the testcase demonstrates the bug.
Perhaps this IE bug is more to your liking? The textarea is 100% wide, and there's a floating div on the right. Moz moves the textarea below the div so it can be 100% wide. IE leaves it on the same level.
Attachment #143772 - Attachment is obsolete: true
(In reply to comment #11) > Created an attachment (id=143775) > testcase numero dos > > Perhaps this IE bug is more to your liking? The textarea is 100% wide, and > there's a floating div on the right. Moz moves the textarea below the div so it > can be 100% wide. IE leaves it on the same level. Which MsIE version(s) are you testing with ? [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113] (W98SE) Mozilla v1.6 display: (---- textarea -----) (- div -) [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7a) Gecko/20040219] (W98SE) [Microsoft Internet Explorer, version 5 (5.00.3105.0106) (128b, SP1)] (W98SE) Mozilla v1.7a display (== MsIE v5.00sp1): (----- empty ------) (- div -) (-------- textarea --------)
(FWIW) [Netscape® Communicator 4.8 : en-20020722] (W98SE) NNv4.8 displays as Mozilla v1.6 does: (---- textarea -----) (- div -)
IE6 shows it (---- textarea -----) (- div -) Fx 20040302 and Sm 2004020708 shows it (----- empty ------) (- div -) (-------- textarea --------)
the testcase regressed between linux trunk 2003121808 and 2003121909. bug 97695 looks like the only thing relevant.
As far as I can tell, the new layout is correct.
Assignee: nobody → english-us
Component: Layout → English US
Product: Browser → Tech Evangelism
QA Contact: core.layout → english-us
Version: Trunk → unspecified
David, could you give an explanation to send to the blogger stuff (they usually respond quickly) why Mozilla is correct and their page is broken? Or did someone already do this? Certainly, it will be bad for Mozilla if that page does not work. pi
This is the first of two screen caps to show the exact bug referenced originally. Here is the correct rendering as done by Firefox 0.8.
This is the incorrect version, as seen in Mozilla 1.7b.
You still can access the form by scrolling. But there is no scrollbar. This seems to be a bug in Mozilla. I am not entirely sure if this is only their fault. Still I would like to know what they make wrong. pi
The inability to scroll seems like a bug. Perhaps file one?
David, I don't fully understand what's going wrong. I guess you understand it better and can file a much more informed bug. Also, it would be great if you could say, what exactly the error with Blogger is and why it worked before. pi
This bug occurs for me in all Mozilla 1.7 and 1.8 builds under WinXP, but is fixed when I reinstall Mozilla 1.6. I have written to the Blogger folks suggesting to them that they collaborate with you on fixing this. As I have been a longtime customer of Blogger Pro (the paid version) with a very low bloggerID (early adopter), they are supposed to listen more to my concerns.
This problem occurs for me in Mozilla 1.7b but not in K-Meleon. Is there possibly another alternative Blogger could use than 100% that will make the textarea as wide as possible without bumping down a line. IMHO, a table might work.
Eliot, I suppose the recommendation to blogger is to change the textarea and floated div widths to use percentages which add up to slightly less than 100% to get the desired layout. E.g. 74% and 25%. Can you contact them as a subscriber? I guess I just don't get floats in all their incarnations. If you change the textarea in the testcase dos to a div, you get the "desired" layout even though the background of the div appears under the floated div. If you change the textarea to a span you also get the desired layout since the width is meaningless. If you add display: block to the textarea, the textarea takes up the entire width and the floated div disappears unless you make the window extremely narrow. Putting display: inline on the textarea is the same as no display property at all.
After upgrading to the latest nightly builds of Camino and Firefox (both OSX versions). the Problem even got worse: Now the entry-field for the blogtext is just about 4 pixels in hight an it impossible to enter or edit text. Very annoying!!!
Anyone else think this needs to be changed from "evangelism"? Is this not a rendering bug occurring in Mozilla? Has blogger.com changed their template in the past day to cause this new COMPLETELY unusable change? If this is rendering related at all... this is a BIG usability problem, and IS in the 1.7 branch... should be set as a blocker.
From the comments here, the problem originally described wasn't a Mozilla problem. If there's a new issue, you should file a new bug, with the page attached, or a testcase.
Actually, I have not found (or understood) what exactly is wrong on the side of Blogger. My question in comment 24 is unanswered. Without that information it is hard to decide who's wrong. pi
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#containing-block-details says: For other elements, if the element's position is 'relative' or 'static', the containing block is formed by the content edge of the nearest block-level, table cell or inline-block ancestor box. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#the-width-property says: Percentages: refer to width of containing block That explains why the textarea must be the width of the page. The reason it moves below the textarea is given here: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#floats If a shortened line box is too small to contain any further content, then it is shifted downward until either it fits or there are no more floats present. The other issues mentioned in this bug (comment 22, comment 28) have not been analyzed and do not belong in this bug. Separate bugs should be filed. Further, this analysis is based on the testcase in comment 11 (attachment 143775 [details]), not the original page. If the testcase is incorrect, then this bug needs further analysis.
I just set up a blogger account at http://planet10.blogspot.com using the free hosting service. I can not reproduce the problems described in this bug using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040505 or Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040505. For the people who are having problems, please send your ua strings, your choice of templates and any customizations you have made to your template, the source for the problem page and a screenshot of the problem. Please also confirm the problem exists in a new, fresh profile.
err, the second ua should have been Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040427
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8a) Gecko/20040505 Firefox/0.8.0+ And that's on a just this afternoon installed windows pc. Default theme.
And a screenshot of this problem.
This is on a brand new blog I just created, shown in Internet Explorer the way it is meant to be displayed.
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This shows the incorrect rendering from 20040506 Firefox/0.8+ Zip install. The form is totally unusable now. (note - in both these attachments, the extra whitespace below the Windows Taskbar seems to have been added by GIMP2 somehow, please ignore)
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Also, as was discovered via an off-bugzilla correspondance yesterday: To those that aren't seeing the screen in question in my example pics... be sure to go into your blogger.com preferences and tell it to use "Classic Style" for the interface. You should then see the horribly broken version. Yippee.
Blogger has just revamped their blogging system which now works perfectly, marking fixed.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 18 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
Wow, Blogger just released a completely new blogger-system and pretty new interface! Say bye, bye to the annoying bugs on the blog-entry page we discussed here. These problems are history now. By the way: the new interface of Blogger is quite nice, and somehow reminds me of a mix between MacOS X and Win XP GUI-Elements. All the new elements seem a little to big though, but this may change over time.
Product: Tech Evangelism → Tech Evangelism Graveyard
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