247435 - funds.comsec.com - "Managed Funds", "Superannuation" & "Features" menus don't drop-down their menu

Status: RESOLVED INCOMPLETE

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: English US, defect)

Description

[Ledge]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616

The "Managed Funds", "Superannuation" and "Features" menus don't drop-down their
menu.  This seems to be a javascript problem as the following javascript error
is reported when the page loads: 

"Error: Layer is not defined
Source File: http://funds.comsec.com.au/Includes/Scripts/Menu/MenuCode/menucode.js
Line: 58"

The menus work in Internet Explorer 6 and Opera 7.51.


Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Surf to
http://funds.comsec.com.au/DEF-FrameSet.asp?s=0&TargetPage=http://funds.comsec.com.au/Features/Articles/TBC-SpecialOffers.asp
2. Hover mouse over "Features"
3. Menu won't appear.

Actual Results:  
Menu won't appear in Mozilla 1.7.  Menu appears in IE 6 and Opera 7.51.

Expected Results:  
Displayed a dynamic, javascript menu.

Made it major as a lot of websites now use dynamic menus and seem to be broken
in Mozilla.

Comment 1

[Brendan Eich [:brendan]]

Reporter: bugs to-do with "Layer" are not JavaScript Engine bugs.  They are tech
evangelism bugs, because Mozilla does not support the obsolete, non-standard
Nav4 layers DOM (Document Object Model).  Alas, the page in question does not
use the DOM standard for positioning, relying instead only on what works in IE4
through non-standard means, or layers in Nav4.

Over to evangelism.

/be

Comment 2

[Ledge]

Just curious, is it possible for Mozilla be made compatible with Nav4 "layers"?
This will reduce a lot of these "Evangelism" bugs.

Comment 3

[Bob Clary [:bc] (inactive)]

Ledge, re: layers, not really for reasons too numerous to go into here. 

While there are still sites whose dynamic menus are not implemented using the
standards, the number is decreasing due to the availability of a number of
alternative browsers.

You can contact the site and ask that they update their content to support
browsers which implement the W3C Standards however you may or may not have any
luck with the site considering they appear to be a "pure" Microsoft shop running
Windows Servers, IIS and ASP. http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/ may be
helpful to them.

Comment 4

[Felix Miata]

This looks like bug 123799. Anyone know for sure?

Comment 5

[Chris Lawson (gone)]

(In reply to comment #4)
> This looks like bug 123799. Anyone know for sure?

Well, I'd hazard a guess it's for the same *reason*, but it's not the same bug ;)

Presumably, when someone finally encourages them to fix their site, this will get fixed too.

Comment 6

[Chris Lawson (gone)]

INCOMPLETE due to lack of activity since the end of 2009.

If someone is willing to investigate the issues raised in this bug to determine whether they still exist, *and* work with the site in question to fix any existing issues, please feel free to re-open and assign to yourself.

Sorry for the bugspam; filter on "NO MORE PRE-2010 TE BUGS" to remove.