249617 - Upgrade recommandation on start pages too strong

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(www.mozilla.org :: General, defect)

Description

[Daniel Wang]

http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.0/
http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.4/
http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.5/
http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.6/

Don't force it down the throat of users to upgrade.

  The Mozilla release that you're currently using is out of date. Please
  upgrade to the latest version of Mozilla or try our new lightweight
  standalone browser and e-mail applications, Mozilla Firefox and Mozilla
  Thunderbird.
->
  An updated version of Mozilla is ready. Get it Now! Or try our new
  lightweight standalone....

Mozilla download page should be www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/

The two big images should be removed

The message should be below the "Welcome to Mozilla 1.x!" header

I don't have access to 	mozilla-org/html/start/1.0/index.html, so I can't make
these changes.

Comment 1

[Asa Dotzler [:asa]]

All previous versions have at least some security issues which have been fixed.
I don't think this message is too strong at all.  Pointing to the 1.x product
page isn't a very good solution if the 1.x line comes to an end. The front page
is a much safer link. It advertises all of our products and might include
additional breaking news or other important messages. 

Comment 2

[Asa Dotzler [:asa]]

Also, I hope you weren't saying that all that stopped you from making those
changes was your lack of access. That kind of attitude makes me unfomfortable
with your having any access to change any pages. 

Comment 3

[Wolf [:wolf]]

Falling back on fixed security issues is hardly a reason to be pushing Fx/Tbird
on the Mozilla 1.x start pages so boldly. Since Mozilla 1.7 is hardly mentioned,
it's obvious that the attempt is to market the new apps. Besides, marketting the
new apps to Mozilla 1.0-1.6 users isn't the target market for those apps.

Also, the new boxes look like they break the 1.0 and 1.4 pages that don't use
the new format. (Paricularly on the non-default styles) The 1.0 and 1.4 start
pages are part of Mozilla's history (mainly 1.0), not a page that should be used
to support Aviary marketting.

Comment 4

[Asa Dotzler [:asa]]

You're not going to convince me to change it so don't reopen this bug. 

Comment 5

[Daniel Wang]

This bug needs a new QA -> dawn

> Falling back on fixed security issues is hardly a reason to be pushing
> Fx/Tbird on the Mozilla 1.x start pages so boldly.

I think what Asa is saying is that we should consider phasing out Seamonkey now.

> Since Mozilla 1.7 is hardly mentioned, it's obvious that the attempt is to
> market the new apps.

Note Firefox is on top of the front page now, and without the Tech Preview label.

> Besides, marketting the new apps to Mozilla 1.0-1.6 users isn't the target
> market for those apps.

when 1.0 ~ 1.6 are released, Firefox+Thunderbird weren't ready for general users.