User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10 Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10 When I click on a newly received email, it is marked as read immediately, even though I have unchecked the Tools > Options > Advanced > General Settings > "Mark message read after displaying for x second(s)". Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Uncheck Tools > Options > Advanced > General Settings > "Mark message read after displaying for x second(s)" 2. Click on an unread email Actual Results: The email is immediately marked as read. Expected Results: It should not have marked the email as read :).
that's not a bug - if you read a message, we mark it read. That setting is just about delaying the marking read, not skipping it entirely.
Ok then, but I don't want my message to be marked as read as soon as I have clicked on it. Just because I have clicked on an email, it doesn't mean I have read it. It makes sense to disable the automatic marking as read completely when the checkbox is question is unchecked.
you could set the delay to a very large value.
Yes, that is what I do do. However, I still believe it makes sense for the mark as read to be disabled when this option is unchecked :).
that's the way you'd want it to work; I understand. But that could mean that everyone who wants the current behaviour would have to check that box and set the value to 0. I think you might be in the extreme minority, which means you probably have to put up with a little inconvenience :-)
No, this can be resolved by having the default setting for this option as checked, with the default value as 0 (or more to my liking, 2-3). :).
Duplicate of bug #234121 I agree with the Reporter. There are two settings (1:box unchecked, 2:box checked, zero timeout) which lead to the same behavior - mark message read immediately. There is no setting which leaves message unread undefinitely (until double-click or being marked read explicitly). This does not make sense, especially that a *a lot* of people prefer the latter behavior. Setting the timeout to a large value is just a workaround with its own problems, see bug #226551. > I think you might be in the extreme minority, which means you > probably have to put up with a little inconvenience :-) You might get a job at MS public relations with this attitude :(
In reply to this bug--I'm using Mac OSX and I'd like to confirm it there. I have the message display window pulled all the way down in TB--that is, when I select a message there is no way for it to display. I must double-click on a message to read it. For old messages that I have marked as unread they stay unread until I double-click on them. New messages however continue to read themselves--without ever displaying. This is a bug. It continues through build 20041017. I understand that if the message is displayed in a display pane then it would technically be read, but if the display pane is disabled or doesn't display messages (as I have done) new messages should remain unread until I manually (double-click) open them. Perhaps there needs to be a way in the prefs to let TB know that the message display pane has been disabled or dragged out of view so that the read selected message functionality is disabled. If so, please add it, but right now, TB marking new messages as read without them ever being shows in a display window seems like a bug that needs a fix.
(In reply to comment #5) > that's the way you'd want it to work; I understand. But that could mean that > everyone who wants the current behaviour would have to check that box and set > the value to 0. I think you might be in the extreme minority, which means you > probably have to put up with a little inconvenience :-) NO ! That is a very useful behavior when using shared imap folders. if there are 10 peaple on a team using the same folder i can just mark as read every message i watch, and if i set the time to a number like 999999 and leave the thunderbird open and it time reaches even so the message will be marked read i think and i insist there has to be a way to disable it ... sorry by my english Paulo Cunha
I have also encounered this problem using Thunderbird version 0.9 (20041103) under Windows 2000. Please could we have some combination of options which allows messages to be left unread until a keypress is used to mark them as read. I, and many others out there, use this scheme. For example, I mark messages as read when I have dealt with them. This means that the main tree view showing "unread" messages which have been filtered into loads of subfolders actually amounts to a sort of TO DO list... This really would be useful! Finally, bug #226551 prevents one possible workaround. I tried setting the mark as read delay to a large number, but mozilla turns this into a negative number and therefore still marks the messages as read immediately! :-(
I have to speak up for what appears to be the majority (Keiron, Sandor, Nathan, Paulo, Chris) on this one: I need to have the option not to mark a message as read when it has only been read in the preview pane. That is logically what that option should mean: It says "Mark message read after displaying for __ second(s)." If that box is unchecked, the logical expectation would be that a message is not marked read after simply being displayed in the preview pane -- the user has to open the message in its own window to mark it as read. This is an option in Outlook, and while of course the point isn't to make an Outlook emulator, it is a reasonable user expectation. And that's especially so because the current behavior could be available by checking the box and setting the value to 0. This is the biggest UI fault I've found yet in my few days of testing Thunderbird.
Judging by the comments here, andthe fact that this same bug keeps getting re-reported, this obviously is bugging a lot of people. Sure wish it could be fixed soon.
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 234121 ***
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 14 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
when i reply to a message by selecting an unread one, i'd excpect it to be marked as read; this doesn't happen. if not by default behavior, then an option to do this. i've tried: options: mark message as read when viewing for 0/1 seconds (checked and unchecked) w xp sp1; t/b rc1
Still a problem in 1.5, and maybe even worse since any large value set in the renamed "Wait x seconds before..." field seems to result in the message getting marked read immediately as does unchecking the box.
(Todd in comment #14) > when i reply to a message by selecting an unread one, i'd excpect it to be > marked as read; this doesn't happen. if not by default behavior, then an option > to do this. > > i've tried: > options: mark message as read when viewing for 0/1 seconds (checked and > unchecked) > > w xp sp1; t/b rc1 (James in comment #15) > Still a problem in 1.5, and maybe even worse since any large value set in the > renamed "Wait x seconds before..." field seems to result in the message getting > marked read immediately as does unchecking the box. James' problem (not sure about Todd's) are Bug 316933 which ultimately resolves to Bug 318419. Bug 318419 has been picked up on branch 220.127.116.11 so I think it's fixed in Thunderbird 18.104.22.168, even though it's not in the release notes.
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