265037 - Accessibility "phrase not found" sound can't be configured

Status: NEW

(Core :: Widget: Win32, enhancement, P5)

Description

[David Janes]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041018 Firefox/1.0
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041018 Firefox/1.0

Firefox does not use the Windows Sounds for Menu Command and Menu Popup (as
defined in Control Panel).

Also no sound is made when you click a link, the Start Navigation sound (and
possibly Stop Navigation) could be used for this purpose.

Finally the "Phrase not found" sound is not configurable. It should use the
Exclamation sound from Control Panel.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
N/A



If you don't like the sound effects then you can always disable them, but the
fact they're not customisable isn't very user friendly.

Comment 1

[Peter van der Woude [:Peter6]]

dupe of bug 248380 ?

Comment 2

[David Janes]

Not really - bug 248380 deals only with Start Navigation sounds, this bug deals
with all the sounds that should be there.

I don't know if this is a bug or an enhancement, all the MS and Non MS apps i've
used play the Menu Command and Menu Popup sounds and it's strange using an app
that doesn't.
Likewise most apps have configurable sounds (such as a failed search sound).

Therefore I think the above two are bugs on Windows.

The Start Navigation is an enhancement though, which should be left to bug 24380.

Comment 3

[David Janes]

Oops I meant bug 248380.

Comment 4

[Mike Connor [:mconnor]]

its an enhancement.  No one has implemented this, so it would be an enhancement
request to add support for this on Windows.

Comment 5

[David Janes]

I can see your point but on the other hand the Windows UI has menu sounds as
standard (all other apps use it). Therefore Firefox is not providing a standard
Windows interface.

For example if the Firefox window was non-resizable or modal it would be marked
as a bug, even though it technically isn't.

Either way it should be fixed/added IMHO.

Comment 6

[Jo Hermans]

dupe of Seamonkey bug 83056

Comment 7

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

This is an automated message, with ID "auto-resolve01".

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Comment 8

[Dave Townsend [:mossop]]

Confirming feature request, seems like a valid idea to me.

Comment 10

[Peter van der Woude [:Peter6]]

is there a way to set this wanted‑firefox3.2 now that bug 83056 is fixed ?

Comment 11

[Masayuki Nakano [:masayuki] (he/him)(JST, +0900)]

This bug report isn't useful because this bug has 3 issues.

The menu related sounds were already implemented in bug 83056. The start/end navigation sounds are reported on bug 248380 but that was marked as duplicate of this bug. And the last issue, "Phrase not found" sound is not reported in another bug. So, I suggest that this bug should track the last issue. And bug 248380 should be reopened for the navigation sounds.

Comment 12

[Robert Strong (they/them - no direct email)]

Not part of the shell integration code. Moving to widget.

Comment 13

[Jim Mathies [:jimm]]

I wonder if this should be in accessibility vs. widget.

Comment 14

[Stephen A Pohl [:spohl]]

Masayuki, could you clarify when/where this "phrase not found" sound would be played? Is this when searching the page for a string?

I don't see any sound in the Windows sound settings that resembles "phrase not found" on Windows 11 anymore. Did that possibly go away, or was it replaced by something else?

I still see Menu Command and Menu Popup however. Does this bug still apply to these, since they were mentioned in comment 0?

Comment 15

[Masayuki Nakano [:masayuki] (he/him)(JST, +0900)]

I don't have much time to investigate which sounds are registered in Windows in these days.
It seems that currently, we play sound or beep here:
https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/rev/080e18fa4748456003164f58b0d925b8c3826a67/toolkit/modules/FinderParent.jsm#650-658

For cleaner implementation, there should be new event sound name here:
https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/rev/080e18fa4748456003164f58b0d925b8c3826a67/widget/nsISound.idl#31-38

And nsSound::PlayEventSound for each widget use proper sound for conforming to the platform manner.

Comment 16

[Stephen A Pohl [:spohl]]

Thank you for your input! Setting priority and severity.