267974 - POP-Filter (Header-Filter) like in Kmail or Sylpheed

Status: NEW

(MailNews Core :: Filters, enhancement)

Description

[Michael Echter]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-AT; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-AT; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910

It would be great when Mozilla will get a POP-Filter for filtering Mail direct
on the Server, without downloading before. You download first all Headers of the
Mail on the Pop-Account. Then in a Window decide to download mail, download
later, or delete direct on the server.
Viewed items in the window should be: Subject, sender, date, size.

Mail-Applications like Kmail, Sylpheed, TheBat, and Pegasus have this feature
since a long time.
This feature can also be used for Spam-filtering.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
nothing
Actual Results:  
none

Expected Results:  
like described

Comment 1

[David :Bienvenu]

we do that in 1.8 and thunderbird - in server settings for your pop3 server,
check "downoad headers only"

Comment 2

[Michael Echter]

The server setting "downoad headers only" is far not the feature like the Kmail
Pop-Filter.
Check in kmail the funktion:  "Filter Mail from: xxxx bytes"
Then, when checking mail, will popup a window where you can decide for each
mail: "Leave on Server", "Download", "delete on server".

This Feature is what I miss in Mozilla and Thunderbird. 

For Windows the programs "The Bat" and Pegasus have the same funcionality.

Comment 3

[Howard Chu]

(In reply to comment #2)
> The server setting "downoad headers only" is far not the feature like the Kmail
> Pop-Filter.

No, it's different, true.

> Check in kmail the funktion:  "Filter Mail from: xxxx bytes"
> Then, when checking mail, will popup a window where you can decide for each
> mail: "Leave on Server", "Download", "delete on server".

But it allows you to do all of these things. You must not get very much mail.
Having to go into a separate pop-up window to do these things that can easily be
done in the main thread window would annoy the hell out of me. It is
distracting, visually disruptive.

With the Header-only download feature you get all the headers in the same window
as the regular mail, and all of the header information is visible. You can then
select which messages you wish to download. Having an explicit option "Leave on
Server" at this point is stupid. Clearly if you *don't* select "Download" for a
message, then it will be left on the server. Unless of course you decide to
Delete it. Requiring someone to click a choice that is already automatically the
default is the mark of a poor user interface. Requiring someone to divert their
attention to a new window and make some decisions then return to looking at the
main window is also the mark of a poor user interface.
 
> This Feature is what I miss in Mozilla and Thunderbird. 

You haven't given the Mozilla feature a fair chance.
 
> For Windows the programs "The Bat" and Pegasus have the same funcionality.

I've used all of these email clients, and several others. The approach in
Mozilla lets me process an average of three thousand emails a day without
straining my brain. Those other clients slow you down. They impose a second
mental model where only one is needed. (And yes, I've done doctorate research in
human factors and computer-human interaction. I'm not just spouting jargon for
the fun of it.)

Comment 4

[Michael Echter]

(In reply to comment #3)
> 
> You haven't given the Mozilla feature a fair chance.

Ok, thank you, I will give it a chance!

Comment 5

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

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[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

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Comment 8

[Magnus Melin [:mkmelin]]

Looks like a valid rfe.