273843 - [e-mail] isn't a valid email address

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(mozilla.org Graveyard :: Server Operations, task)

Description

[Henrik Gemal]

I've tried to add myself to the beta update but I dont get any Activate mail.

I've found out why.
A mail is send out with the folloing header:
From: Mozilla Update <[e-mail]>

but [e-mail] isn't a valid mailadresse which cause my
and properly a lof of other peoples antispam software to reject the mail.

update.mozilla.org doesn't have a MX record

Please please please fix.

if you need more info just let me know!

Dec  9 08:15:48 m00 postfix/smtpd[28964]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
iguana.mozilla.org[140.211.166.7]: 450 <[e-mail]>: Sender
address rejected: unverified address: connect to
iguana.mozilla.org[140.211.166.7]: Connection refused;
from=<[e-mail]> to=<[e-mail]> proto=ESMTP
helo=<iguana.mozilla.org>

Comment 1

[Wolf [:wolf]]

Well, for the record, if you already have items listed you don't need to create
a new account. :-) Just use the e-mail your extensiona re listed as, which is
likely your bugzilla e-mail and ask for a new password. (Though that mailing
would be rejected by this bug too. doh.)

I'm aware that [e-mail] is invalid. It needs to be
changed to [e-mail]. Patch coming up.

Comment 2

[Wolf [:wolf]]

Attachment: Change @update.mozilla.org to @mozilla.org

Comment 3

[Wolf [:wolf]]

Patch checked in.

Comment 4

[Henrik Gemal]

nope

check:
http://gemal.dk/browserspy/mailcheck.cgi?mailaddress=[e-mail]

still invalid. newer antispam solutions checks the senders address to see if
it's really an mailaddress.

"[e-mail]" is not a valid mailaddress
<[e-mail]>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual
alias table at smtp.osuosl.org (550)

Comment 5

[Wolf [:wolf]]

Justdave, Update needs [e-mail] to be valid, it's the e-mail it
sends auto-generated messages from. The only inbound mail should be bounce
notices from bogus accounts.

Comment 6

[Dave Miller [:justdave]]

Nope.  The only mail going to it would be anti-spam checks (if they actually
check the From: line -- I'd bet most folks only check the envelope sender).  The
bounce notices go to [e-mail], because that's what's in the
envelope sender.  If you read comment 0 again, it even says that in the error
message.

So the address that we need to make sure checks out for that stuff is
[e-mail].  Sendmail on iguana is configured to only listen on
localhost, because it's not supposed to have any inbound mail, which is probably
the problem.  I opened port 25 on the external interface. See if that helps.  
I can't check it with Henrik's verification script because his script doesn't
fall back on the A record when the MX isn't available (which is perfectly
acceptible according to the RFCs).

Comment 7

[Henrik Gemal]

Wolf: do you chance the mail address into [e-mail] ?

Comment 8

[Dave Miller [:justdave]]

(In reply to comment #7)
> Wolf: do you chance the mail address into [e-mail] ?

He doesn't have to.  The system will use that as the envelope sender of anything
he sends, no matter what the program says, because that's the user the program
is running as.  He can put whatever he wants on the actual From: line as far as
I know.  

Comment 9

[Henrik Gemal]

problem:
http://gemal.dk/browserspy/mailcheck.cgi?mailaddress=apache%40iguana.mozilla.org
No MX records found for iguana.mozilla.org

so newer antispam solutions cant verify the mailaddress

Comment 10

[Dave Miller [:justdave]]

(In reply to comment #9)
> problem:
> http://gemal.dk/browserspy/mailcheck.cgi?mailaddress=apache%40iguana.mozilla.org
> No MX records found for iguana.mozilla.org
> 
> so newer antispam solutions cant verify the mailaddress

Your "newer antispam solutions" are violating the RFCs then.  An MX record is
not necessary if the mail server for the domain resides at the machine with the
A record for that domain.  See RFC 2821 Section 5.  "If no MX records are found,
but an A RR is found, the A RR is treated as if it was associated with an
implicit MX RR, with a preference of 0, pointing to that host."

FWIW, I messed up the sendmail config last night.  Port 25 just now got opened
on the external interface on iguana.  It should work now.

Comment 11

[Dave Miller [:justdave]]

Since there's been no further complaints since the last fix attempt, I'll assume this is fixed now.