274021 - not given the option to select desired Eudora directory to import mail from if several Eudora installations (profiles) exist

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(MailNews Core :: Import, defect)

Description

[Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

I have a machine where I keep two Eudora installations (actually one 'program'
installation but two mail/data folders with different settings, mail, etc.) In
TB1.0, when I select import mail from Eudora I don't seem to get an option of
what directory to import from.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
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Comment 1

[Alexander Opitz]

*** Bug 274030 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 2

[Doug Wright]

Not a TB auto-migration bug -> Core:MailNews:Import

Comment 3

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Comment 4

[Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia]

> copy) or, for feature requests, if it's not present in the latest version and
> you still believe we should implement it, please visit the URL of this bug
> (given at the top of this mail) and add a comment to that effect, giving more
> reproduction information if you have it.

The bug is still present in 1.5-beta1.

It is always reproducible. You just need to have Eudora installed with two or
more folders with different mail/data/settings.

Comment 5

[Jean-Michel Reghem]

yes ...

The problem is that the importing phase for eudora (i speak for windows version, i  don't know about mac) automatically use the default profile of eudora ...

But Eudora has not a profile manager. In the manual, they said you can have an other profile by dupplicate the default profile folder and dupplicating the eudora shorcut (and pointing this shorcut to the new folder)

I used this (before using TB) to have 2 profiles of eudora on the same windows login --> one for my wife (default) and one for mine ...

Since i've switched to TB, i cannot import my mails ... only the mails of my wife ... same for adress book and settings ...

The solution is simple: let the choice to user: automatically import or choose the directory where is located the eudora.ini file of the choosen profile

Comment 6

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

bug 82481 comment 1 (Eudora settings) "I have three different copies [profiles] of Eudora running, each one for a different family member."  and bug 274021 comment 5, "Eudora has not a profile manager." (Eudora mail) hit the nail on the head. A eudora user can have multiple profiles, each of which will be in a different directory, and there is no central file that points to them all.

This affects importing of ABs and settings, not just mail. Perhaps the import process should show the directory picker even if it finds a directory, so the user can change it if this is not the directory they want.


Related to this is the issue that "The installer lets you pick a different place for Eudora to store data."  as noted in 
http://eudora.qualcomm.com/download/eudora/windows/7.1/Readme.txt

There is also the possibility that mozilla isn't precisely following the current specs (listed below) for getting a good profile location - perhaps it should query the registry as noted in the readme.txt. 

"With Eudora 5.x under Windows 2000 or Windows XP, the default location
to install the application is still under Program Files, but the data
files are kept in a User’s Application Data folder (typically
"C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data", where <username>
is the User’s login name). *The installer lets you pick a different place
for Eudora to store data.* If only an Administrator is going to be running
Eudora, the data can go anywhere at all, but if a User is going to be
running Eudora, the data should go in that user’s Application Data folder.

___Finding the data folder___

The Windows 2000 or Windows XP Application Data folder usually has the
hidden attribute, which makes it invisible in Windows Explorer or My 
Computer (unless you’ve configured those tools to display hidden 
objects). There are good reasons, though, why you might want to 
explore the folder where your Eudora data is stored; in particular, 
the email attachments that you’ve received are there, in the Attach 
subfolder (unless, of course, you’ve told Eudora to store attachments 
elsewhere). To make this easier, Eudora creates a shortcut to your 
Eudora data folder in the Application Data folder’s parent folder, 
which is typically "C:\Documents and Settings\<username>".

___Precisely how Eudora determines its data folder___

Below is the exact sequence of how Eudora determines the folder in
which to keep its data files. This applies in all versions of
Windows. Most users will have no need of this gory detail, but here
it is, just in case:
1. If a folder is specified on Eudora's command line, then Eudora uses
   that folder.
2. Otherwise, if the program folder (that is, the folder where Eudora
   is installed) contains a Eudora.ini file, then Eudora uses that
   folder.
3. Otherwise, if there's a DEudora.ini file in the program folder,
   and if the [Settings] section of that file contains a DataFolder
   setting, and if the folder specified by that setting contains a
   Eudora.ini file, then Eudora uses that folder.
4. Otherwise, if there is not a UseAppData=1 entry in the [Settings]
   section of the DEudora.ini file in the program folder, and if
   either of the registry keys listed below specifies a folder,
   then Eudora uses that folder. (If both keys list a folder, the
   first one takes precedence.)
     \\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Qualcomm\Eudora\CommandLine 
     \\HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Software\Qualcomm\Eudora\CommandLine\Current 
5. Otherwise, if the system has version 4.71 or higher of Shell32.dll,
   Eudora uses the current user's Application Data folder.
6. Otherwise, Eudora uses the program folder."


I question the accuracy of #4 above, because my deudora.ini DOES have UseAppdata=1 and my data (I took the default on installation) is specified in the registry and is using documents and settings: 

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Qualcomm\Eudora\CommandLine, current, C:\PROGRA~1\Qualcomm\Eudora\Eudora.exe 
C:\DOCUME~1\blah\APPLIC~1\Qualcomm\Eudora C:\DOCUME~1\blahAPPLIC~1\Qualcomm\Eudora\Eudora.ini

I suspect this is OS=All but I don't know enough about eudora to say so.

Comment 8

[Matt Dudziak]

An easy work-around (at least if using Penelope (Eudora 8) is to run the copy of Eudora you are trying to import from, then quit. Then when Eudora 8 (Penelope) importers run, the last-run version of Eudora will be imported.

Comment 9

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

sev=minor, given workaround

Comment 10

[:aceman]

Importing from Eudora was removed from Thunderbird in bug 1243498.
Please see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_from_Eudora_-_Thunderbird on how you can still import from Eudora if you need that.