280048 - erroneous delete message option "remove it immediately"

Status: RESOLVED INCOMPLETE

(Thunderbird :: General, defect)

Description

[Guillaume Morin]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

When using the Server settings option, "When I delete a message, remove it
immediately", the wording is pretty clear that the message will be removed right
away not just hidden.  It turns out that even with that option, Thunderbird is
calling the "DELETE" command rather than the "PURGE" which would be consistent
with the chosen option.
It is especially useful if you trying to keep track of your mail of the same
mailbox using two different protocols (one being IMAP). Please fix it.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Select the option "When I delete a message, remove it immediately"
2. Delete a message

Actual Results:  
Thunderbird will send "DELETE" and not "PURGE"

Expected Results:  
Thunderbird should send "PURGE" to actually delete the message.

Comment 1

[David :Bienvenu]

if we did that, you'd never be able to undo a delete. In this delete model, you
have to decide when to compact the folder...

Comment 2

[Guillaume Morin]

(In reply to comment #1)
> if we did that, you'd never be able to undo a delete. In this delete model, you
> have to decide when to compact the folder...

Unless you use a Trash folder, right? After all, that's what they are for. I
think the wording is pretty clear, "remove it immediately" pretty much implies
that there is no undeletion possible unless you use a Trash folder. I think it
it pretty consistent.

If you disagree, you could also provide at least an option which calls "PURGE"
for people who actually need it. But again, I think "remove it immediately" is
clear.

Comment 3

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

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Comment 4

[Pontus Freyhult]

I second Guillaumes opinion - the wording is clear and if one select such an
option, one cannot reasonably expect to be able to undo the delete.

Comment 5

[bastiaan]

Agreed, the e-mail should be deleted immediatly as that is what the option says.

Comment 6

[Gary Kwong [:gkw] [:nth10sd] (NOT official MoCo now)]

Reporter, does the issue still exist in the latest supported 2.0.0.x / Shredder trunk nightlies?

(1.5.0.x is now end-of-life and the latest 2.0.0.x is version 2.0.0.16)

Comment 7

[Joshua Cranmer [:jcranmer]]

RESO INCO per lack of response to previous comment. If you feel this change was made in error, please respond to the bug with your reasons why.