280174 - Place group header widget/icon flush left, not under Subject column

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(Thunderbird :: Mail Window Front End, enhancement)

Description

[Artem Skoretskiy]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ru-RU; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041108 Firefox/1.0
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ru-RU; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041108 Firefox/1.0

When grouping messages, group name is at the subject's column, even if the first
column is other.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open main window.
2. Go to folder that contains letters.
3. Change column order - put Sender before Subject.
4. Order messages by date (or any other column).
5. Group messages (by sorted column).
Actual Results:  
Groups appear. Their labels are located at the Subject's column

Expected Results:  
Groups appear. Their labels are located at the first column (might be merging
all columns)

Comment 1

[u63580]

This is closely related to placement of icons in the "Subject" column (i.e. bug
227928).  Is it a separate issue, so would splitting up status and subject also
solve this?

Comment 2

[u63580]

By the way, I assume by "group" you mean thread.

Comment 3

[Artem Skoretskiy]

(In reply to comment #1)
> This is closely related to placement of icons in the "Subject" column (i.e.
bug 227928)

No, this is completely OTHER bug. In bug 227928 subject is about an icon. Here
we are talking about grouping.

And, as for comment #2 - i have localized version, so i cannot say exact name of
that. Maybe thread is more correct word.

Comment 4

[u63580]

What I meant is that the graphics for threading "goes with" that for the status
of the message.  So altering where the status shows up (into its own column)
will mean changing the threading/grouping as well.

Comment 5

[Mike Cowperthwaite]

(In reply to comment #2)
> By the way, I assume by "group" you mean thread.

You assume incorrectly.  Grouping is a new feature, similar to but not identical 
to threading, and has a different display mode which features "headers" 
displayed within the thread pane.

Comment 6

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

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Comment 7

[Alex Ihrig [:Thunderbird_Mail_DE]]

Bug is still existing in latest Thunderbird 1.5 beta 2 branch nightlies. Several
users reported about this problem.

Comment 8

[Alex Ihrig [:Thunderbird_Mail_DE]]

Attachment: Screenshot demonstrating the problem

Comment 9

[u63580]

Just to add a bit of info for those who haven't used grouping, it is on the
View-Sort By menu, or has the keyboard shortcut "G".

Comment 10

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

(In reply to comment #1)
> This is closely related to placement of icons in the "Subject" column (i.e. bug
> 227928).  

Indeed the same as the wontfixed bug 227928.  No reason was given for the WONTFIX.

An interesting problem, but I don't see a compelling UI improvement or use case.  But others may, especially in the new UI world

Comment 11

[Bryan Clark (DevTools PM) [:clarkbw]]

I'm not really sure what the reasons are for this.  I'd guess it's technical.

But in reality I can't see this as something I'd push for.  The existing system works well enough and the benefits of improvement here are likely outweighed by the difficulty of change.

Comment 12

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

=> wontfix then by precedent and comment 11, and since no patch in 4 years time