283400 - Address list should have option to not show list to message recipients

Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 83521

(Thunderbird :: Address Book, enhancement)

Description

[Jeff]

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Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

Address lists of friends have no privacy concerns. However, many other address
lists do have privacy concerns. For these lists, it is at least embarassing and
potentially harmful to allow message recipients to see the list of recipients.

To hide the recipients in a message, Thunderbird requires the user to type the
address list name in the Bcc: field. This is not fail-safe and typing it in the
To: field is easily done and potentially disastrous.

Thunderbird should provide an option in the address book such that, for selected
lists, the list of contacts is never shown in a message.

An add-on benefit to this is that address lists can then be entered into the To:
field, intentionally or otherwise, without problem.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Create address list
2.Send a message to the address list using the To: field
3.
Actual Results:  
Every recipient sees the list of recipients

Expected Results:  
Allowed the list to be marked as "not to be shown"

Lack of this feature makes Thunderbird too error-prone for use with sensitive
mailing lists.

Comment 1

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

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Comment 2

[Jeff]

(In reply to comment #1)
> This is an automated message, with ID "auto-resolve01".
> 
> This bug has had no comments for a long time. Statistically, we have found that
> bug reports that have not been confirmed by a second user after three months are
> highly unlikely to be the source of a fix to the code.
> 
> While your input is very important to us, our resources are limited and so we
> are asking for your help in focussing our efforts. If you can still reproduce
> this problem in the latest version of the product (see below for how to obtain a
> copy) or, for feature requests, if it's not present in the latest version and
> you still believe we should implement it, please visit the URL of this bug
> (given at the top of this mail) and add a comment to that effect, giving more
> reproduction information if you have it.
> 
> If it is not a problem any longer, you need take no action. If this bug is not
> changed in any way in the next two weeks, it will be automatically resolved.
> Thank you for your help in this matter.
> 
> The latest beta releases can be obtained from:
> Firefox:     http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/
> Thunderbird: http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/releases/1.5beta1.html
> Seamonkey:   http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/
> 

(In reply to comment #1)
> This is an automated message, with ID "auto-resolve01".
> 
> This bug has had no comments for a long time. Statistically, we have found that
> bug reports that have not been confirmed by a second user after three months are
> highly unlikely to be the source of a fix to the code.
> 
> While your input is very important to us, our resources are limited and so we
> are asking for your help in focussing our efforts. If you can still reproduce
> this problem in the latest version of the product (see below for how to obtain a
> copy) or, for feature requests, if it's not present in the latest version and
> you still believe we should implement it, please visit the URL of this bug
> (given at the top of this mail) and add a comment to that effect, giving more
> reproduction information if you have it.
> 
> If it is not a problem any longer, you need take no action. If this bug is not
> changed in any way in the next two weeks, it will be automatically resolved.
> Thank you for your help in this matter.
> 
> The latest beta releases can be obtained from:
> Firefox:     http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/
> Thunderbird: http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/releases/1.5beta1.html
> Seamonkey:   http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/
> 

This feature remains missing from Thunderbird 1.5 Beta 1 and it is still
desireable that it be added. As examples with which I am familiar: the feature
is available in Microsoft Entourage as a list-specific option and in Apple Mail
as an application-wide preference. The former is preferred although the second
is acceptable. Lacking this feature, Thunderbird is not useable for mailing
lists that require the names in the list to not appear to recipients since it is
too easy to enter the list name in the "To:" field by mistake when it should
have been entered in the "CC:" field of a message.

Comment 3

[Jeff]

(In reply to comment #2)

The last sentence should have read: "...when it should have been entered in the
"Bcc:" field of a message."

Comment 4

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

dup of another bug but don't remember which ATM

Comment 5

[Craig Schulenberg]

(In reply to comment #0)
> User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
> rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0
> Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
> rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0
> 
> Address lists of friends have no privacy concerns. However, many other address
> lists do have privacy concerns. For these lists, it is at least embarassing and
> potentially harmful to allow message recipients to see the list of recipients.
> 
> To hide the recipients in a message, Thunderbird requires the user to type the
> address list name in the Bcc: field. This is not fail-safe and typing it in the
> To: field is easily done and potentially disastrous.
> 
> Thunderbird should provide an option in the address book such that, for
> selected
> lists, the list of contacts is never shown in a message.
> 
> An add-on benefit to this is that address lists can then be entered into the
> To:
> field, intentionally or otherwise, without problem.
> 
> Reproducible: Always
> 
> Steps to Reproduce:
> 1.Create address list
> 2.Send a message to the address list using the To: field
> 3.
> Actual Results:  
> Every recipient sees the list of recipients
> 
> Expected Results:  
> Allowed the list to be marked as "not to be shown"
> 
> Lack of this feature makes Thunderbird too error-prone for use with sensitive
> mailing lists.
> 

(In reply to comment #4)
> dup of another bug but don't remember which ATM
> 

(In reply to comment #4)
> dup of another bug but don't remember which ATM
> 

(In reply to comment #4)
> dup of another bug but don't remember which ATM
> 
I send out a lot of email using email lists, and almost NEVER use a cc: -- instead, I use a single To: line and multiple bcc: lines.  If there were a global option that would allow me to default ALL addresses to bcc: entries, then all I would have to do is override the SINGLE addressee that I would like to be the to:, usually myself.

It is a continual hassle to ensure that I don't have any cc: items in my mailouts which would allow everyone to see my subscriber list.

Comment 8

[[:Aureliano Buendía]]

Cleanup *dupeme* whiteboard flag from bugs that are marked as Resolved
Duplicate!