290307 - Home and End key usage confusion in source view

Status: RESOLVED INVALID

(Firefox :: Keyboard Navigation, enhancement)

Description

[Kepes Krisztian]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; hu-HU; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050318 Firefox/1.0.2
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; hu-HU; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050318 Firefox/1.0.2

In a normal Text editor:
Home: Go to the act. line's first char
End: Go to the act. line's last char

Ctrl+Home, or Ctrl+PgU: Go to the act. docs's first char
Ctrl+End, or Ctrl+PgD: Go to the act. docs's last char

In Mozilla or FireFox that is exchanged. Everytime when I want to go to the 
first char in line, I go to the first line in doc.

That is very hateable thing ! Please exchange this, if possible !
See the Context Editor for example.



Reproducible: Always

Comment 1

[Jo Hermans]

Firefox isn't an editor, but a browser.

On the trunk, it will work like you want, when you're using Caret Browsing
(press F7 to enable that). Then you see a cursor, and home/end will only work on
a line. See also bug 262668.

Comment 2

[Jason Barnabe (np)]

This isn't view source.

Comment 3

[Aaron Leventhal]

This works how other editors work -- notepad or Word for example. Are you
suggesting we act differently from other common editors?

Comment 4

[Kepes Krisztian]

Attachment: An example about how the keys are working

> This works how other editors work -- notepad or Word for example. Are you
> suggesting we act differently from other common editors?
>
In my machine not. I show an example in attachment (in a zipped PDF file). I
try to use Home and End keys in Source Viewer, and in Notepad.
The result is not same - and that is the problem.

I hope that you understand, what I say about.
   ft

Comment 5

[Aaron Leventhal]

Okay, by the time I saw your bug it had no mention of view source :/

Anyway, yo ucan use the F7 key to toggle the caret on and off in the browser or
view source. At that point home and end work the same as in notepad.

Comment 6

[Kepes Krisztian]

(In reply to comment #5)
> Okay, by the time I saw your bug it had no mention of view source :/
Sorry. PossibleI forget it.

> 
> Anyway, yo ucan use the F7 key to toggle the caret on and off in the browser or
> view source. At that point home and end work the same as in notepad.
I have Mozilla 1.0.2 Hungarian.
In this version (as you see in attachment) I vainly toggle in caret mode on/off,
because the Home and End keys always goto to the "borders" of document, not of
actual line.
You trying with bigger version of Firefox ?

Comment 7

[Aaron Leventhal]

Yes, I'm using nightly builds:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290307

Marking invalid. Works as designed.

Notice that readonly documents that don't support the caret generally support
the same keystroke model. Once the caret is toggled on, the keyboard model changes.

You can always copy and paste the source into a notepad and use the keyboard
however you want from there.

Comment 8

[Kepes Krisztian]

Attachment: Newer test in 1.0.3

(In reply to comment #7)
> Yes, I'm using nightly builds:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290307
> 
> Marking invalid. Works as designed.
> 
> Notice that readonly documents that don't support the caret generally support

> the same keystroke model. Once the caret is toggled on, the keyboard model
changes.
> 
> You can always copy and paste the source into a notepad and use the keyboard
> however you want from there.


1. I trying with 1.0.3 - and that is also not working. See the attachment (pdf
doc)
2. If really true what you say, then I not like firefox source functions... 
I hate IE, Opera is good - but Firefox is better. 
I like Firefox, but if I need it in Web designing/developing, I very-very hate
firefox keystroke models !!!
Everytime I push Home and End Keys, because I is a standard rule in every
aplication. 
So a little funny, that Firefox, what want to replace IE, cannot follow the
common way of keyboard handling !

Comment 9

[Aaron Leventhal]

Nightly builds are not 1.0.3:

See http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/

Anyway, we're not going to be changing view source keys.

Comment 10

[Kepes Krisztian]

(In reply to comment #9)
> Nightly builds are not 1.0.3:
> 
> See http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/
> 
> Anyway, we're not going to be changing view source keys.

Ok, I understand it. In Webdevelop I use Opera... 
But why ? Why ? I think that is very simple, because it is the normal wokring
mechanism in Windows (in Linux I don't know).

Comment 11

[Kepes Krisztian]

I think that is may be an enchantment - in future.
In source view the Home key is move cursor to first char of act. line, End key
is move cursor to last char of act. line.

Comment 12

[Aaron Leventhal]

No, source view works as designed. This is staying closed. Don't reopen it.

If you want home/end to work like that use browse with caret (F7). If there are
problems with the way browse with caret acts in source view, file a different
bug for that.