User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050317 Firefox/1.0.2 Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050317 Firefox/1.0.2 I've just received word that Patrick Keefer, a software/business entrepreneur of Gibbon, Nebraska, is planning to backorder the Firefox trademark(s)/domain name(s). I talked to him and he said that because Firefox uses an old version of the Mozilla engine, among other things, and seeing some benefits in Internet Explorer versus Firefox, he plans to place backorders. I convinced him to wait one year, but he is serious. Prevent the hijacking of the Firefox trademarks and domains! Reproducible: Always
Can you explain further? ICANN rules allow sites to become the property of someone else if the contact doesn't respond within 5 days <http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/11/10/0425218.shtml?tid=95&tid=17>. However, if Mozilla locks their domains and renews on time, this shouldn't be a problem. Do you know which domains he's planning to take? Does this involve registering new domains, or backordering old ones? Who is Patrick Keefer, did he own foxlogic.net as the internet would have me believe? So many questions!
In an email sent directly to me (which appeared to be a reply to some bugspam from this bug, from the >inline quote): ---- Quite true. It's ironic; he's angry that TechSonic Industries (a semiconductor company) backordered TechSonic.net (I would be, too, really), although he's started a new site (http://www.dark-nations.com/) with the hopes of making it big off of cheaper "Video Professor" competition. He also claims... (Patrick): Plus, I have backorderd and successfully taken over 52 branded names now. I feel no pitty for those who can't put them to good use. He plans one day to hire developers for those sites (apparently those of old software producers) and start them up again. He also heard rumors that Firefox is in jeopardy because it hasn't had a "big" update recently and it still has an old Mozilla engine instead of a newer version. (He also holds general contempt for it.) (Patrick):There are talks that Firefox development will be discontinued if they do not fix the old engine problem by the end of July right? ...I remember hearing about that in the IRC channel for the Mozilla site.... ...Did you know that all security certificate vendors are not validating Firefox now? The(y) deemed it risky business. Why do you think there hasn't been a new release in a while. (self): I'm downloading Firefox 1.03a right now. (Patrick): But it's not licensed ...Even thought it says GPL, it's not valid. all of their certificates were revoked 5 months ago. I only know this because once Firefox federal name registration runs out, I am going to take the name if possible. I have some plans.... ...I figured if Firefox goes dead, I would grab the name and me and my buddies programers would develop brand new translation engine and build a browser... I managed to convince him to wait one year and then place backorders on the domains. I dunno if he'll be able to do it, but he sounds rather determined (although he has tried a few other business ventures in the past, all failed). He's probably planning to take over getfirefox.com and any other related to the brand, dunno which. I might try to get more specifics from him when he returns from "Away" status on AIM. He was the second webhost for a videogame fansite I've run, so I ended up talking to him a bit. He thinks he can make it big on a few of these schemes, but right now I think he's still working at a McDonalds, though he claims to be bringing in $400 a month from his TSN's toolbar. I feel some sort of pity for him, really. Might be good to spread the word about this, though. Just don't bring too much attention to me; the two of us do still talk a bit conversationally. M. Attacca
As long as MoFo renews the domains and such, ther is no danger. This is just another sleazy, slimey, scummy domain squatter.