Closed Bug 290986 Opened 19 years ago Closed 18 years ago

Registration of Spanish, Spain (es-ES) localization

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(Mozilla Localizations :: Registration & Management, defect)

defect
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normal

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(Not tracked)

RESOLVED FIXED

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(Reporter: gonis.firefox, Unassigned)

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User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; es-ES; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050321 Firefox/1.0.2
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; es-ES; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050321 Firefox/1.0.2

# the product you want to localize: Firefox
# the language + country code: es-ES
# your contact details (name + e-mail, web-page if available): Isidro González,
gonis.firefox@gmail.com, no web-page for the moment

Reproducible: Always
IIRC we already got a registered es-ES team, you might want to contact them if
you want to help.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 19 years ago
Resolution: --- → INVALID
(In reply to comment #1)
> IIRC we already got a registered es-ES team, you might want to contact them if
> you want to help.

If you look into http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/l10n/ it says:

Un-owned! Original files provided by Oscar Manuel Gómez Senovilla
<omgs@omgs.escomposlinux.org>, but he cannot do long-term maintenance.

What is the suggested procedure to solve this?
ups, my fault. I did not look at the right page.

As we (MLP staff) have lots of requests pending, please be patient. We will
register you ASAP.
Status: RESOLVED → UNCONFIRMED
Resolution: INVALID → ---
Gonis: please join to the es-ES mailing list, since there are now volunteers and
this question can be discussed there. MLP Staff, please hold on for a while and
you'll get news.
(In reply to comment #4)
> Gonis: please join to the es-ES mailing list, since there are now volunteers and
> this question can be discussed there. MLP Staff, please hold on for a while and
> you'll get news.

Sorry for the naive question, but where is such a mailing list and how can I
subscribe?
(In reply to comment #5)

> Sorry for the naive question, but where is such a mailing list and how can I
> subscribe?

As I, in confused haste, removed omgs from the CC list, he did not get the comment.
Best would be to write an email to him directly.
Here is the Nave localisers website :
http://nave.hispalinux.org/

There is a link to subscribe to their mailing list on the front page
(In reply to comment #7)
> Here is the Nave localisers website :
> http://nave.hispalinux.org/
> 
> There is a link to subscribe to their mailing list on the front page


In fact, the right URL for the es-ES team is http://nave.escomposlinux.org/

and the mailing list is available at:

http://www.elistas.net/lista/nave/

The team really needs a member willing to help with Mozilla Firefox, with enough
knowledge of CVS and committed in the long run. Many people appears and
disappears just after a few days, and long-standing members, like Oscar and me,
don't really like the spirit of Firefox versus Seamonkey. IMHO, that is one
reason why Oscar is keeping Firefox translation but asking for a replacement.

Right now we have a senior member ready to assume the role of l10n contact for
Mozilla Firefox translation, but all of us are "on hold" waiting for this bug to
evolve, in order to avoid a double request. Please, let us know about you in the
list and there we will be able to coordinate and designate a single member to be
in charge of l10n updates to MoFo CVS.
> Right now we have a senior member ready to assume the role of l10n contact for
> Mozilla Firefox translation, but all of us are "on hold" waiting for this bug to
> evolve, in order to avoid a double request.

If you alredy have a single member to be in charge of l10n, please use this bug
to provide such information. 


Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
OS: Linux → All
Hardware: PC → All
Summary: Registration for es-ES → Registration of Spanish, Spain (es-ES) localization
(In reply to comment #9)
> > Right now we have a senior member ready to assume the role of l10n contact
> > for Mozilla Firefox translation, but all of us are "on hold" waiting for
> > this bug to evolve, in order to avoid a double request.
> 
> If you alredy have a single member to be in charge of l10n, please use this
> bug to provide such information.


Next friday we will either give a name to follow the registration process or
state our withdraw from Fx l10n. I must point out that we haven't had any
feedback from Isidro "GoNiS" Gonzalez at NAVE mailing list, in which looks like
a recurring pattern: someone offers himself as a volunteer to help in Fx l10n
and, after some days/weeks, nothing else is heard from him.

Anyway, I again promise a definitive answer next friday 27th.
(In reply to comment #10)
> 
> Next friday we will either give a name to follow the registration process or
> state our withdraw from Fx l10n.


Ok, so we haven't heard anything from GoNiS, but we have a volunteer (actually
two) to register as "owner" for Firefox l10n. Now, should we stick to this bug
to complete the required steps or should we better close this bug and then the
owner-to-be open another one?

Regards.
Please use this bug.

If there are more people involved, we would like to know who will be the owner
and who the peer. You can also have one leader of your l10n team and different
people responsible for browser/mail/toolkit parts of localization. See our wiki
page to get the idea - http://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Localization_Teams

In order to commit Spanish localization of Firefox, you need at least one
memeber of your team with CVS access. So, the owner should apply for CVS
account - see bug 263726 as an example. You need also provide this localization
in form of CVS structure for review. 
Hello, my name is Andres G. Aragoneses and I am the NAVE member proposed to be
the CVS owner of the Spanish es-ES l10n.

I have just created the required bug to request the CVS access and attached my
ssh public key to it: bug 295894. I will send a new comment there when I send
the CVS Contributor Form via fax.

Regards.
Just for mlp clarification, and as still unofficial maintainer of Firefox, I
bless Andr¨¦s G. Aragoneses (knocte) for acting as interface between the
translators in es-ES team and Mozilla Foundation localization through his CVS
account.
I still keep the es-ES translation for thunderbird and the shared toolkit (maybe
another new shared components too), but not firefox.
Since this step has been recently taken, firefox maintainer is not 100% decided
yet, but surely it will be soon.
Depends on: 295894
Thanks for your comment Oscar.

I have just sent the fax to the telephone number specified on the CVS
Contributor Form webpage. Tomorrow I will send it also by snail mail.

Regards.
Please attach the Fx files in the CVS structure for a review (or provide a
link). After that review we can vote for your cvs acces.
Wow, the confusion finally made it to mlp-staff.

We don't have "interface folks" on our CVS. We have an owner per
locale/product combo and peers.

Before Mozilla can approve any such a position, we need clarification on who is
supposed to do which.
(In reply to comment #17)
> Wow, the confusion finally made it to mlp-staff.
> 
> We don't have "interface folks" on our CVS. We have an owner per
> locale/product combo and peers.
> 
> Before Mozilla can approve any such a position, we need clarification on who is
> supposed to do which.


If you want to know who is going to actually translate browser locale files, who
is going to actually translate toolkit, and so on, I don't think we are going to
assign definite, static roles in a such "written in stone" way.

It's nearly sure Oscar will keep translating toolkit and mail, and probably
Andres will do a substantial work in browser, but is equally likely that I will
help in browser if Andres is somehow short of time, and even toolkit and/or mail
in case Oscar needed it.

However, what is for sure at this moment is that all CVS commits will be done by
Andres. We're providing Andres as a name for browser owner because you need a
name, not because we intend to leave him on his own devices.

Therefore, if you imply that being an owner requires CVS access, then Andres
will probably need to be listed as toolkit/mail owner also, as Oscar wasn't
willing to apply for one (but, anyway, I'll let him to speak for himself, in
case he changes his mind).

I hope this will make things look clearer.
I am attaching the files you asked for reviewing.
On my side, and only if for this is blocking the access grant, I'm planning to
maintain, by the moment, thunderbird and the toolkit (which is part of both
tbird and ffox). Take the comments from Ricardo as the closest to true.

If you need anything else, mostly that is blocking the resolution of this bug,
please let us know.
Ok. Guys, to be clear here.
I'm vouching for Andres, so I'll be the one from our side to take care about
es-ES l10n.
Andres is owner and he's responsible for es-ES locale bits. I don't care who
will write patches or lead the course, but if anything goes wrong, we need to
have a way to contact with Andres.

Having that said, I'll try to get Andres account ready asap.
there is now a team for this locale and they have official releases so i am closing this bug.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 19 years ago18 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
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