292436 - Feature request, UI design consideration of toolbar collapsing thumb placement

Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 112534

(SeaMonkey :: General, enhancement)

Description

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User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040510
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040510

I've often wondered, and recently publically lamented about, why the stupid
little "collapse bar" tabs are on the left-side of toolbars, right next to
things you actually want to click.. and therefore get accidentally clicked.
Others agreed, and so I decided to finally ask, why must we suffer this
attrocity? Put the damn things on the right, out of the way.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Quickly try to click back

Actual Results:  
2. Op! Why's the screen redrawing? Where'd the URI go?
3. %^#*!@#!!

Comment 1

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

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Comment 2

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

This bug has been automatically resolved after a period of inactivity (see above
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Comment 3

[Karsten Düsterloh]

- These thingies are called "toolbar grippies".
- This behaviour is by design. If you have problems in controlling where you
click, please see comment #8 of bug 112534.


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 112534 ***

Comment 4

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Thanks for the condescending reply. I'm not a novice, but mice are sometime
sticky or jump. In any event one should not have such a large unused element
immediately adjacent to high-volume elements such as the back-button. Comment 8
only tangentially addresses the issue, and nearly very other comment in that
three year old thread agrees calls for the death of Clippy^Wgrippies.

Comment 5

[Karsten Düsterloh]

> Thanks for the condescending reply.

Sorry, I didn't want to sound rude, but you very obviously do have a mouse
problem, not a software problem. Eg. in Classic, the Back button's width is
about 4 times the grippy width, so it's actually rather hard not to hit it...

> I'm not a novice, but mice are sometime sticky or jump.

True, but no software problem. 

> In any event one should not have such a large unused element

Grippies are not usused.

> Comment 8 only tangentially addresses the issue,

Bug 112534 comment 8 says how to turn grippies off without hacking Mozilla.
If you just want to move grippies to the left, try this in your userChrome.css:

toolbar, menubar
{
	direction: rtl;
}
.toolbar-holder
{
	direction: ltr;
}