294269 - Live bookmarks should only be refreshed if user is online

Status: VERIFIED WONTFIX

(Firefox :: General, defect)

Description

[Andrés Delfino]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b2) Gecko/20050427 Firefox/1.0+
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b2) Gecko/20050427 Firefox/1.0+

It's annoying to enable "Work Offline" just to stop live bookmarks updates.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:

Comment 1

[Tristor]

I am not sure if what you are asking is possible, but I somehow don't see it as
plausible to write hooks into your operating systems screen saver just to
determine if you are online or not before updating your live bookmarks.  If
anybody disagrees, re-open, I am wontfixing this.

Comment 2

[Anders Conbere]

I think he's talking about when a user specificaly selects "work offline" in
which case it might make sense to disable live bookmarks in those cases. (if
sufficiently easy)

Comment 3

[Andrés Delfino]

(In reply to comment #2)
> I think he's talking about when a user specificaly selects "work offline" in
> which case it might make sense to disable live bookmarks in those cases. (if
> sufficiently easy)

That is what I mean indeed.

Comment 4

[Tristor]

(In reply to comment #3)
> (In reply to comment #2)
> > I think he's talking about when a user specificaly selects "work offline" in
> > which case it might make sense to disable live bookmarks in those cases. (if
> > sufficiently easy)
> 
> That is what I mean indeed.

That may be what you meant, but that is most definitely /not/ what you said. 
Please file a new bug on that issue, and this time follow the bug writing
guidelines.  If going into "Working Offline" mode doesn't cause Live Bookmarks
to stop trying to update, then that should be part of your report, and you
should have well defined steps for reproduction. 
http://www.mozilla.org/quality/bug-writing-guidelines.html  for more
information.  Also, please search to make sure you don't report a duplicate.

Comment 5

[Andrés Delfino]

Please, sorry my english. I'll try to explain what I mean:

When I am offline and "Work offline" is not checked, live bookmarks try to
update themselves. I find this annoying, and I need to check "Work offline" to
stop that.

Now, I'd like live bookmarks to update themselves only when I'am online.

I'll read the guidelines, count with that!

And sorry again, ;)

Comment 6

[Tristor]

(In reply to comment #5)
> Please, sorry my english. I'll try to explain what I mean:
> 
> When I am offline and "Work offline" is not checked, live bookmarks try to
> update themselves. I find this annoying, and I need to check "Work offline" to
> stop that.
> 
> Now, I'd like live bookmarks to update themselves only when I'am online.
> 
> I'll read the guidelines, count with that!
> 
> And sorry again, ;)

So, you are saying you want Live Bookmarks to stop updating when you walk away
from your computer, or you are not connected to the internet through dialup,
even though you are considered 'online' as far as the browser is concerned
becauuse "Work Offline" is not checked.  Is that basically what you are getting
at?  If so, that was my original understanding when I resolved per comment #1. 
I had understood what you were saying to mean that in order to keep live
bookmarks from updating, you had to mark yourself as offline, that you wished
for it to stop updating if you weren't actively browsing, I don't think that is
very plausible, but whatever.

Comment 7

[Andrés Delfino]

Now, you let me note something obviusly to you all: Firefox assumes I'am online
ALL THE TIME, so I MUST check "Work Offline" to let him know that.

I'm sorry I accept your reply. Thanks.

PD: When I mean offline, I was trying to say: "when I'm not connected to the
Internet at all"

Comment 8

[Tristor]

(In reply to comment #7)
> Now, you let me note something obviusly to you all: Firefox assumes I'am online
> ALL THE TIME, so I MUST check "Work Offline" to let him know that.
> 
> I'm sorry I accept your reply. Thanks.
> 
> PD: When I mean offline, I was trying to say: "when I'm not connected to the
> Internet at all"

It makes that assumption because it is an application that relies on being
online.  If you think that's the incorrect behavior and that it should have
something for detecting whether you are online or offline, then you could file
an enhancement bug on that.  Honestly, I think that would be something better
suited to an extension.  I would recommend contacting an extension author or
writing on yourself that would simply detect if the user is connected to the
internet (maybe by pinging the nth IP along a traceroute to Google.com) and
trigger 'Work Offline' when it can no longer ping, and then turn 'Work Online'
off when it can ping.  That is an interesting idea, but is beyond the scope of
just Live Bookmarks.  

Comment 9

[VanillaMozilla]

Andrés, does Firefox dial up automatically to refresh live bookmarks?  If so, I think that's the bug here.

Comment 10

[Andrés Delfino]

(In reply to comment #9)
> Andrés, does Firefox dial up automatically to refresh live bookmarks?  If so, I
> think that's the bug here.
> 

Yes, when I'm disconnected to the Internet (but without Work Offline checked).

Comment 11

[Ria Klaassen (not reading all bugmail)]

(In reply to comment #10)
Can't you switch that off in your systems connections properties window?

Comment 12

[Andrés Delfino]

(In reply to comment #11)
> (In reply to comment #10)
> Can't you switch that off in your systems connections properties window?
> 

Perhaps I didn't say something it doesn't automatically, it asks me to connect to the Internet (to refresh de live marks).