User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4 (ax) Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4 (ax) This web page is my example, it is not otherwise toxic beyond the irregular choice of font size and abuse of language and citizen that is the norm for government documents! :-) I have an HP PSC 750 600 dpi inkjet printer, which prints with minimum inch margins .07 top, .25 side, .46 bottom. My display is set for 1024x768 with medium 16 bit color, windows classic style, windows standard color scheme, font size normal. When I got to set up printout for a very full page starting with text size normal and using custom=68%, there are several disappointments: 1. I cannot set up more finely than +/- .1 inch, so I cannot hit my minimum margins. 2. Apparently, the margins are added to the minimums, which is counter-intuitive and against established good practice. 3. If I set them all to zero, the header and footer disappear with no warning. Of course, MS Office XP Pro Word renders header and footer into the unprintable areas, and brainlessly even renders this accurately in print preview, so I suppose it is tradional and established practice to abuse the user in the area of the header and footer. :-) 4. While the header and footer use the full width, the page is rendered further indented, over which I seem to have no control. 5. Even with just a .2 inch top margin (the minimum to have a header), the header is .2+ inches away from the header, which wastes space and makes the disappearing header just a pain. 6. With a zero top margin, the printout does not start anywhere near the top of the page. 7. BTW, the print preview has pixel-clipped characters in the document body all down the right side, no matter what the margin setting, and even though the header extends father right without any such clipping. While some of these may be similar to, or overlap, other reports, I felt it might be nice to give a really tight and complete description of the problems in this area of a new browser version. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Set up PC as described 2. Go to page 3. Adjust print settings as described, and review print preview (which seems accurate, hopefully except for the clipped characters on the right edge). Actual Results: I sighed, decided to print in MS Word in teh future and to submit a bug. Expected Results: Allowed setup to .001 inch; offered to fix settings outside the current printer's capabilities or to select another printer; offered explicit setting to drop or include each of: header, footer; laid out the text using the full canvas; presented doc without clipping characters in both the print preview or the print. I suppose it is a bit too much to expect for the browser to let you choose the font and gutter for the header and footer, and to show in print setup the available canvas, the space above the header, the space for the header, the space below the header the remaining space for the body, the space above the footer, the space for the footer, and the space below the footer, maybe like in a mechanical drawing (blueprint). It's a common enough way for browsers to come up short, IE6 was really bad for a while, so much so that I printed a lot from Netscape, which makes the Mozilla Firefox failure all the more of a real surprise. Oh, well, there's still Opera, but I don't like their print preview paradigm (too much work to turn off, and not nice enough to live in, like I do with ms word 'print layout' view, except when the doc gets so unpresentable I have to do surgery in 'normal')! While you're in there, buttons to go to print preview from print setup and vice versa are real nice. You half got it!
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Last Resolved: 13 years ago
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