Closed Bug 300669 Opened 19 years ago Closed 19 years ago

Implement Firefox feature: If Bookmark Bar is clicked once, all Bookmark folders open on mouse-over

Categories

(Camino Graveyard :: Toolbars & Menus, enhancement)

Product:
Camino Graveyard
Component:
Toolbars & Menus
Platform:
PowerPC
macOS
Type:
enhancement
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
normal

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Status:
VERIFIED WONTFIX

People

(Reporter: joojoo, Assigned: mikepinkerton)

References

Details

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8b2) Gecko/20050620 Camino/0.9a1
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8b2) Gecko/20050620 Camino/0.9a1

I would like to see the Firefox feature in Camino. In Firefox 1.0.5 I can
single-click any folder in the Bookmark Bar to open it's menu, move the mouse
along the Bookmark Bar, and any highlighted bookmark folder in the bar will open
automatically, no further clicks required.

Reproducible: Always
Mike, Simon, is this even possible with Cocoa toolbars?  If so, is it desirable?
(In reply to comment #1)
> Mike, Simon, is this even possible with Cocoa toolbars?  If so, is it desirable?

a) The bookmark bar isn't a Cocoa toolbar.
b) I don't know if it's desirable.
For me, it's one of the few things I like about Firefox better. If I click on
the wrong folder, I can easily switch between. In Camino, it's easy to misclick
a folder and in trying to go to another one, dragging the bookmark folder down
into the content area and loading all the tabs, or accidentally moving the
folder into another folder (although this has been GREATLY improved over how
sensitive it was in the past). I suppose the downside to this is it doesn't let
you move bookmark folders around in the toolbar without going into the bookmark
manager?
(In reply to comment #3)
> I suppose the downside to this is it doesn't let
> you move bookmark folders around in the toolbar without going into the bookmark
> manager?

I (personally) don't see this as a downside, because I never use the "Draggable
Folders in toolbar"-feature at all. If I have to rearrange things, it is so
"severe" (or so many items) that it's more comfortable to use the Bookmark
manager, if you know what I mean.
Seems like weird, undiscoverable, wacko feature.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 19 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
(In reply to comment #5)
> Seems like weird, undiscoverable, wacko feature.

Not weird since it's just behaving like the Mac OS menu bar.
Not undiscoverable, as it just takes going off the left or right side of folder
to discover.
Not wacko, IMHO.  I personally think GUIs should behave like this were-ever
possible.  I hate to use the "M$" word here, but Entourage's toolbar menus do
this, and it's really nice.

As for drag'n'drop, that could still work.  You could just have this feature on
once you have clicked and let go.
*** Bug 334337 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
For the record: the reason this was WONTFIXed is that the bookmarks bar is a toolbar, not a menu bar. Mac OS toolbars do not behave this way, and as far back as I can remember, all the way to System 6, they never have.

This is one of the biggest reasons popup menu-triggering buttons are an evil scourge on the UI of any application.

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Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
Unfortunately I have to trash Camino on this one then. Very anoying bug and since navigating the bookmarbar is a major activity, I can better deal with the slow startup of Firefox again. Very sad to hear it is a wontfix.
Bad reason to say it is a wontfix because it would not be standard GUI thing then.
*** Bug 339334 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Agree 100 % with Martiniman below.  I don't get the comment "Bookmark bar is a toolbar - not a navigation bar".  That may well be, but the whole purpose of the bookmark bar is to be a tool for easier NAVIGATION, though the navigation is OUT (on the internet) as opposed to IN (to features in the machine).   And agree with writer below, that it is probably the navigationtool within the browser that by far is most heavily used.
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Agree on it being sad if being a non-fix.  Same applies for me.  Will probably be my main reason for exchangin Camino with Firefox once the Firefox guys can get the Camino theme to look a bit better.
Please read https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=etiquette.html before posting. Complaining about WONTFIX decisions is not appropriate in bugzilla.
So it this not going to be fixed then I take it? As others have said, this is something that I really miss from Firefox and definitely makes navigation easier.

Regarding Comment #8: I don't really understand the argument regarding it not being the way OS X works - wasn't that an argument against the built in search bar like Firefox's ? That's in now and has made a big improvement to Camino...
Yes, that is what the WONTFIX status indicates.

Once again, for anyone considering commenting here in the future: please read comment 12, read the bugzilla etiquette guide it links to (particularly section 2.2), and only comment here if your comment would meet the criteria there.
Fair point, but I thought my response to Comment #8 added value.

I'll leave it after this, but can I just ask:

Is this issue closed in that no-one's going to spend time investigating/fixing it, or is it closed even to accepting a patch that would implement it (assuming it's technically possible) ?
A patch implementing the proposed behavior would not be accepted; we consider the current behavior to be the correct behavior. If someone really wants to implement this, it would have to be as a third-party hack.
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