301910 - leave updating where it belongs: in the OS

Status: VERIFIED INVALID

(Toolkit :: Application Update, enhancement)

Description

[Bèr Kessels]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.4; Linux 2.6.10-5-386; X11; i686; nl) KHTML/3.4.1 (like Gecko) (Debian package 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1)
Build Identifier: any

I run ubuntu, a linux distro that is perfectly capable of keeping its software 
up-to-date. From what I have see, I assume newer windows versions have quite 
good software updaters built in 
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/updateservices.aspx?DisplayLang=en), too. 
And Macintosh has something like this too 
(http://www.apple.com/macosx/upgrade/softwareupdates.html).  
 
So please, leave the software management where it belongs: in the operating 
system or distribution. Imagine the dependency and maintainance hell f all my 
applications had their own updating system.  
 
Because I now have an updater-in-an-updater, it breaks. Completely. Firefox is 
broken -again- because my OS updated it, but firefox does not like it, I am not 
yet sure what the problem is, but that is not important now! The very fact that 
it wants to do its own updating, is the error.  
 
So please consider slimming down Firefox by removging this strange nno-standard 
features; And leave it where it belongs: in the OS. 

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. # apt-get install mozilla-firefox 
2. $ mozilla-firex >> run updater 
3. # apt-get dist-upgrade 
 


Expected Results:  
nothing :)

Comment 1

[:Gavin Sharp [email: [e-mail]]]

Bug features that detail such general and vague changes, such as "remove
software updating", aren't useful, especially considering the new update system
is one of the main focuses of the upcoming Firefox 1.1 release.

Comment 2

[Bèr Kessels]

note that the "feature" does not say "remove update feature".  
 
I want to 1) statr a discussion on better integration with the OS/platform.  
2) start a discussion about what features should be in FF, and what not.  
3) Point out that a minority -linux users- has perfectly well working upgrade 
systems, that often collide with propriety upgrade systems like that of FF.  
4) Give valuable user feedback. Yes, even feedback that does not fit in the 
mainstream ideas, is feedback. And OSS should not, ever, simply ignore 
feedback. For "if one person took the time and effort to register and report 
his concer, you can be suer there are at least a lot more people who have that 
same issue, but did not want to go trough all the hassle of repotring it". 
 
I think simply closin this with "not going to happen", is not only rude, but it 
kills a debate that -IMHO- is an important one, before it even ever started. 

Comment 3

[Jo Hermans]

Reporter, this is not a discusion forumn. This is a bug-database.

You can better raise the issue on the forums <http://forums.mozillazine.org/>,
or on the wiki <http://wiki.mozilla.org/>.