303387 - ambiguous translation.

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Mozilla Localizations :: tr / Turkish, defect)

Description

[Turan Yüksel]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; tr-TR; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; tr-TR; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4

The Turkish translation lacks precision and it's ambiguous at times, in addition
to many grammatical (suffixing) and spelling errors. It has to be revised
thoroughly and possibly rewritten from scratch.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. In order to get the best example, firstly find a site with a custom-made
certificate, the certificate should be issued to a hostname other than the name
of host to be connected. This is the case when one tries to connect to a host
with incomplete name or as "localhost".
2.
3.

Actual Results:  
The translation reads:
"\"%s\" ile bağlantı kurmayı denediniz. Mamafii, gösterilen Sertifika \"%s\"
ait.Olabilirde olmayabilirde , fakat bu Web sayfası kurduğunuz iletişimi gizlice
izlemeye çalışıyor."

"Gösterilen sertifikanın %s ait olmadığını düşünüyorsanız, bağlantıyı kesin ve
sayfa yönetici ile irtibata geçin."
 

Expected Results:  
mismatchDomainMsg1=You have attempted to establish a connection with "%S". 
However, the security certificate presented belongs to "%S".  It is possible,
though unlikely, that someone may be trying to intercept your communication with
this web site.
mismatchDomainMsg2=If you suspect the certificate shown does not belong to "%S",
please cancel the connection and notify the site administrator.

...should translate as:
"%S" ile bağlantı kurmayı denediniz. Ancak gösterilen sertifika "%S"e ait. 
Muhtemel bir durum olmasa da, birisi bu web sitesiyle iletişiminizin arasına
girmeye çalışıyor olabilir.

Eğer gösterilen sertifikanın "%S"e ait olmadığını düşünüyorsanız, bağlantıyı
kesin ve site yöneticisini bilgilendirin.


The re-translation into English reads as follows, provided that one guesses the
grammatically correct Turkish suffixes, as the sentences are not grammatically
correct:

You have tried to connect to %s. That's why, the Certificate presented belongs
to %s. It can be, - or cannot be - but thıs Web page tries to sniff the
communication you have established.

If you think that the certificate does not belong to %s, abort the connection
and contact the page administrator.

Comment 1

[Turan Yüksel]

Erratum: One more step to produce the bug:

2. Conntect to the host with a name other than the name to which the certificate
is issued, e.g. connect https://localhost/ to your server www.test-machine.com
possessing the certificate issued to www.test-machine.com .

Comment 2

[Ahmet Serkan Tıratacı]

All errors mentioned above have already been fixed in latest trunk that can be
downloaded from
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk-l10n/.
Please check Turkish build if you can still reproduce it. These changes will be
available when Firefox 1.5 is released - expected in August or September.

Comment 3

[Axel Hecht]

Even if that translation has been fixed on the trunk, we may want to get a patch
to the security related dialogs onto the 1.0.x branch. Benjamin?

Comment 4

[Axel Hecht]

Dan Veditz should know, too.

Comment 5

[Ahmet Serkan Tıratacı]

(In reply to comment #3)
> Even if that translation has been fixed on the trunk, we may want to get a patch
> to the security related dialogs onto the 1.0.x branch. Benjamin?

We already publish language packets right after a new 1.0.x release. I wish we
had the chance that new releases would contain the latest (up-to-date)
translation base on CVS, not only security related dialogs. All 1.0.x versions
are based on 1.0 translation.

BTW, I think this bug should be marked as fixed and patching security dialogs
issue can be filed on a new bug.

Comment 6

[erkan kaplan]

Fixed in all firefox 1.0+ versions