Closed Bug 304036 Opened 19 years ago Closed 19 years ago

"Camino Support" and "Tips & Tricks" both go to same page

Categories

(Camino Graveyard :: Toolbars & Menus, defect)

Product:
Camino Graveyard
Component:
Toolbars & Menus
Platform:
PowerPC
macOS
Type:
defect
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
minor

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Status:
RESOLVED FIXED
Milestone:
Camino1.0

People

(Reporter: alqahira, Assigned: mikepinkerton)

Details

(Keywords: fixed1.8)

Attachments

(2 files, 2 obsolete files)

MainMenu.nib with smfr's proposal
17.07 KB, application/zip
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MainMenu.nib with my propsal
17.17 KB, application/zip
Details 
Effectively we now have two Help menu items that point at
http://www.caminobrowser.org/support/

They get there from two different URLs redirecting.

Can we remove "Tips & Tricks" from the menu?
Yes, we should remove one for 1.0. No reason to have extra menu items.
Flags: camino1.0+
Target Milestone: --- → Camino1.0
I think the Help menu should look like:

Camino Help
------------------
Camino Home Page
Camino Feedback
------------------
Installed Plug-Ins


I think the release notes item is a nice touch (although it currently redirects to a 404 page on cb.o for 1.0rc1), but otherwise I agree with Simon.
Attached file MainMenu.nib that keeps Release Notes (obsolete) — 
Camino Help     ⌘?
Release Notes
-------------------
Camino Home Page
Camino Feedback
-------------------
Installed Plug-Ins
Comment on attachment 202073 [details]
MainMenu.nib with smfr's proposal

This nib is now obsolete with Mark's fix for 315866.
Attachment #202073 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Comment on attachment 202074 [details]
MainMenu.nib that keeps Release Notes

Same as above.

Can reach a decision on this?  Simon's layout, mine, or something else entirely?
Attachment #202074 - Attachment is obsolete: true
i vote for smokey's version.
The problem with "Release Notes" is that it's effectively a diff between two versions, and we don't know what older version they are interested in.

Also, for a 1.0, I don't think it's as appropriate.
Yes, I agree. We should remove the Release Notes option for 1.0. The following is the layout I propose (based on Smokey's):

Camino Help     ⌘?
-------------------
Camino Home Page
Camino Feedback
-------------------
Installed Plug-Ins

In addition, I'm thinking Camino Help should direct to a new subdomain on cb.o (help.caminobrowser.org). I'm working on docs/design right now. It'll make more sense to have a page with the same name as the link the user clicked. It's been mentioned that "support" and "help" can be different things. "Help" is a much better term for users.

Also, I think "Release Notes" should remain in the trunk version for what will become 1.1. Those users may care what the differences are. So I propose this change be for the branch only and with the layout in comment 5 as the default layout for the trunk version.
I don't follow...there are people out there who are just now upgrading from 0.7?  If so, they can look at the 0.8.x release notes if they want to know what's changed in the period between their last release and the current one.

And I also don't follow why we'd want to remove this for 1.0 but keep it on the trunk for 1.1?

Sorry, I guess I'm just dense....
I'm not married to this, but I do think it's a nice thing to have the known issues and major changes easily accessible in the menu, right by the Help, rather than the user having to search "Help" (I'm not sure we list known issues anywhere in the Support section aside from the relnotes) or filing dupes in Bugzilla.

And Firefox has a menu item for this, and their release notes are essentially nothing but "thanks for downloading, rah rah); surely real release notes are worth it?

Whichever you want, now there are current nibs for both again.
Fixed on branch and trunk, using the version without release notes.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 19 years ago
Keywords: fixed1.8
Resolution: --- → FIXED
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