305743 - Site fails to detect Flash plugin

Status: RESOLVED INVALID

(Firefox :: General, defect)

Description

[Rich]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050818
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20050816 Firefox/1.0+

The AlcoholEdu course fails to detect the Flash plugin while using Firefox 1.0.6
or Deer Park. Using Mozilla 1.7.11, Flash is detected and the site functions. I
filed a bug in their Bugzilla equivalent, and received a curt reply that it was
a Firefox bug.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Load site
2. Login

Actual Results:  
Flash was not detected and the site became unusable.

Expected Results:  
The site should have been usable as Flash was installed.

Comment 1

[Dave Townsend [:mossop]]

Without being able to get into the site there is little that we can do here,
however flash works just fine in firefox throughout the internet.

Comment 2

[Rich]

Here, have a nice account.

Username: [e-mail]
Password: that'snomoon

The same data applies to the e-mail address listed above.

Comment 3

[Rich]

haha, oops, the account was [e-mail]

That'll teach me to type too fast.

Comment 4

[Dave Townsend [:mossop]]

Told me that I had flash 7 installed so this appears to work for me.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20050823
Firefox/1.6a1 ID:2005082308

Comment 5

[Rich]

What's your build, the 1.6a1 from CVS?

Comment 6

[Rich]

Just rm -rf .mozilla, grabbed a 1.6a1 binary from the FTP, installed Flash, and
tried again.

Same error.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20050823 Firefox/1.6a1

Flash still functions perfectly fine on other sites.

Comment 7

[Frederic Bezies]

Broken for me.

I have Flash 7 under Tiger 10.4.2, and using Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac
OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20050824 Firefox/1.6a1, it threw me :

" Internet Connection Speed*   	Not detectable with this browser not detected
 Flash Player Version  	Flash -1
You cannot proceed with the course until you download and install the latest
Flash player. You can use the button below to upgrade or install your player.
Once you have completed the install, return to this page and click your
browser's refreash button to reload the page."

And if you look at source code, you can see this site is a real POS...

Here is the beginning of the code :

"<!--
var IE4 = (document.all) ? 1 : 0;
var NS4 = (document.layers) ? 1 : 0;
var ver4 = (IE4 || NS4) ? 1 : 0;
var currDesc = 0;

function getObject (obj) {
	if (IE4) { return eval("document.all." + obj); }
	else { return eval("document." + obj);	}
}

function getFormObject (obj) {
	if (IE4) { return eval("document.all." + obj); }
	else { return eval("document.forms[0]." + obj);	}
}"

And so on...

This site seems to be blocked in 1997 or so...

It smells like tech evangelism.

If so, contact page : http://www.outsidetheclassroom.com/contact/

Comment 8

[Rich]

I discovered that the problem is the site's detection code, not Firefox.

The site fails to detect Flash in Konqueror, Firefox 1.0.6, Deer Park, or
Mozilla 1.7.11.

Using the UA switcher extension to make the site think that Firefox or Konqueror
is a version of Netscape or an earlier version of Mozilla, the site functions fine.