307431 - Unable to Help Louisiana hurricane victims with Firefox

Status: RESOLVED INVALID

(Core :: Layout, defect)

Description

[Brad Spencer]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716 Firefox/1.0.6
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716 Firefox/1.0.6

See right box that displays addresses of places to send packages and money. This
information is missing in the Firefox browser. 

The only way I am able to help hurricane victms is to use internet explorer
because this browser displays emergency information correctly.

Brad Spencer

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. open url
2.
3.

Actual Results:  
right 'how to help' box truncates beginning of all text.

Expected Results:  
show text

this does noyt repro using ie

Comment 1

[Kevin Brosnan]

WFM - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b4) Gecko/20050906
Firefox/1.4 and Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.10)
Gecko/20050716 Firefox/1.0.6 (ax)

The box is displayed in both 1.0.6 and the Firefox 1.5 branch.

Comment 2

[Josh Birnbaum]

I can confirm the problem with Moz 1.7.11 on Win2K.

Kevin, it's not that the box isn't there, it's that the first few characters of
each line are not visible and cannot be scrolled to (presumably some bad CSS).

Comment 3

[Brad Spencer]

If bad css is to blame then why are the publishing tools at MSNBC that generated
these pages understandable by internet explorer but not firefox.

Thx

Comment 4

[Josh Birnbaum]

The display is better in newer versions; testing here with the latest SeaMonkey
nightly (2005090705).  I tried to look through what the page was doing, but it's
pretty complex and DOM Inspector gave me trouble.

However, from what I did see, it's setting a fixed size for that portion of the
page, and expecting the text to fit.  This fails for Mozilla and Internet
Explorer (IE6 SP2).  In Internet Explorer, you probably need to go to View, Text
Size, Largest to see it fail.  IE does show the left-most part of the text, vs
Mozilla's showing the right-most part (IE's behavior ends up being more useful
here).

Brad, Internet Explorer implements the CSS specs poorly.  IE7 is expected to be
better, but until then, Mozilla, Opera, and other browsers follow the specs more
closely.  But in this case, both browsers seem to be doing roughly the same
thing, so it's more of a bad page issue.

For the above reasons this is probably invalid, but leaving open for someone
more CSS savvy to confirm.

Comment 5

[Brad Spencer]

This was meant to show that MSNBC works reliably with IE regradless of the news
broadcast. Notice one would need to use IE in order to read the adddresses to
send aid. 
Hmm I didn't get a single laughilla.

Brad

Comment 6

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

Is this still a problem?  I can't reproduce, at a wide range of font sizes, and even with a forced minimum font size set.

If this is a problem, can someone attach a testcase to the bug, please?  That way we won't be tied to the site not changing or anything like that.

Comment 7

[Josh Birnbaum]

The page did change, but I can still reproduce with a Firefox 1.5 branch nightly (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051208 Firefox/1.5).  I can make a testcase eventually, but if someone has time now, please feel free.