308286 - danlod.com - Bad HTML rendering

Status: RESOLVED INCOMPLETE

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: Arabic, defect)

Description

[Ali Nadalizadeh]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8b4) Gecko/20050908 Firefox/1.4
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8b4) Gecko/20050908 Firefox/1.4

on the http://danlod.com and similar weblogs using such design and tags
firefox renders them incorrectly and shows them abnormally.
this bug exists in all releases of firefox and mozilla in both windows and linux
platform. 

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. only view http://danlod.com with firefox
2.
3.

Actual Results:  
Badly rendered webpage

Expected Results:  
A good website like that opera and MS-IE shows.

no crash

Comment 1

[Peter van der Woude [:Peter6]]

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A//danlod.com/
nearly 200 errors
a case of bad html

Comment 2

[Martijn Wargers (dead)]

Could be a bug in Mozilla's rtl code. Needs a minimal testcase, though.

Comment 3

[Jacob Torrey]

I can confirm it, however, I can't tell if it is just the bad coding, or
something wrong with Firefox. IE and Opera may work as they use non-W3 tags
along with propietary IE tags.

Comment 4

[Erik Fabert]

Attachment: reduced testcase

This is not a BiDi issue. The page contains tons of DIV elements with a fixed
height that is too small to hold the contents and relies on IE's behaviour to
automatically expand the height, see bug 192076.

Comment 5

[Ali Nadalizadeh]

Yes, i know that the page i specified may not be under W3C Standards
as the matter of fact lots of webpages on the internet are not standard.
!!!!
But, shouldn't firefox support them..???
may firefox loses it's users because of problems like this.

Comment 6

[Ali Nadalizadeh]

Hey !
you can see the validation of www.yahoo.com with over 330 errors
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://yahoo.com
and because of these errors should not firefox display them correctly ??
but displays it.

also you can see the best search engine in the world "www.google.com"
with 40 w3 errors...

Comment 7

[Niels Madsen]

Firefox should NEVER support anything else than W3 standards in my opinion,
sites shouldn't crash, it should just be converted somehow, don't care how much
info gets lost. Just like you don't fly an airplane without properly designed
wings, you don't use a browser without a well designed framework that has been
used for years now.
IE supports the W3 standards differently than Firefox, and though none of them
supports it completely(far from, as indicated by ACID test), the general
consensus is that Firefox does the job better than IE.
Even with that said, IE does have a lot of customized propeitary(spelling?) tags
that will never work on other platforms, this is a Microsoft problem, and not
Firefox.

Comment 8

[Martijn Wargers (dead)]

Ali, you're right, the site not w3c validating is not really a reason for
Firefox letting it show up incorrectly.
But the reason why it shows up incorrectly in Firefox has been cleared up in
comment 4. And when I look at the source of that page, I agree, the source is
full of height:xxpx, where there is no need for it.
So this is really just tech evangelism. The page author should just remove all
those useless/harmful height declarations.

Comment 9

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

Note that this site WILL break in IE 7, since last I checked IE 7 fixes this longstanding IE bug.  Just in case people are wondering about whether they should fix the site.  ;)

Comment 10

[Chris Lawson (gone)]

INCOMPLETE due to lack of activity since the end of 2009.

If someone is willing to investigate the issues raised in this bug to determine whether they still exist, *and* work with the site in question to fix any existing issues, please feel free to re-open and assign to yourself.

Sorry for the bugspam; filter on "NO MORE PRE-2010 TE BUGS" to remove.