310542 - junk mail filer on already filtered messages won't work immediately

Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 200788

(Thunderbird :: Mail Window Front End, defect)

Description

[Stefan Geisseler]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b5) Gecko/20050929 Firefox/1.4
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b5) Gecko/20050929 Firefox/1.4

If you filter your messages (for example split global inbox messages into
different account-folders) the junk mail filter will not filter the messages
immediately.
The moment you click on the folder (open it) junk mails are moved.
It really bothers to click on each folder and finally opening the junk mail
folder, only to check if it was a correct filtered junk mail... (and not look
only once into the junk folder and nothing more...)

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Create a filter for an account (move them to EXAMPLEFOLDER)
2. Get some junk mail
3. Recognise the junk mails are still in EXAMPLEFOLDER as long as you don't open it
4. Click on EXAMPLEFOLDER and junk mails are moved to the junk mail folder

Actual Results:  
Junk Mails on filtered folders aren't moved when they arrive, only if you open
the folder

Expected Results:  
Junk Mails should be moved immediately

Comment 1

[Mike Cowperthwaite]

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 223591 ***

Comment 2

[Stefan Geisseler]

Oh god, no wonder that thunderbird still has so much bugs, when everything is
marked as false duplicates. The problem I mean is NOT that messages are filtered
late like in 223591. The problem is, that messages aren't even filtered
automatically (it doesn't matter how long you wait). You have to open the folder
first, to get them filtered, everything else doesn't move the junk away...

Comment 3

[David :Bienvenu]

Stefan, are these messages coming from an IMAP or POP3 server?

Comment 4

[Stefan Geisseler]

Attachment: See the bug in motion

Comment 5

[Stefan Geisseler]

Comment on attachment 198043 [details]
See the bug in motion

grrr. that's what I meant in a forum post - always the risk of giving away
private data (mail adresses) damn you can't only explain or you will mark them
always as something else... please delete that attachement!!!!!

Comment 6

[Stefan Geisseler]

Attachment: See the bug in motion

Comment 7

[Stefan Geisseler]

@  David Bienvenu
All of them are normal POP3, set to "Global Inbox" under Sever Settings =>
Advanced and with a filter:

Match any of the following:
Age in Days is less than 999
Move Message to [one of the folder in the list]

Comment 8

[David :Bienvenu]

Sorry, I'm a bit slow today - this is the way junk filtering works. It happens
after your normal filters, and only runs on the new messages in a particular
folder. What you're asking for is for the junk mail filter to also run
immediately on messages that have been moved to other folders by the incoming
mail filter. That's reasonable, but I don't know when I'll be able to get to it.

Comment 9

[Mike Cowperthwaite]

(In reply to comment #2)
> Oh god, no wonder that thunderbird still has so much bugs, when everything is
> marked as false duplicates. 

The reason we have so many bugs is because ignorant users like yourself keep 
filing them without bothering to search for dupes.  The difference between the 
issue described at bug 223591 and the one I'm duping this to is only a question 
of *how* the problem gets solved -- if a message gets marked as junk when it 
arrives, then it can be tossed into the junk bin before another filter gets hold 
of it.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 200788 ***

Comment 10

[Stefan Geisseler]

I don't mean the bugs filled in here, I mean the bugs you always see using
Thunderbird and which are never fixed in the software - this one here is only
one of the reproducible bugs I've encountered, a more feature related bug. A lot
of them I cannot really describe/reproduce or search for, because all of them
have similar words in description, and they are much worser and much more random
but also more obvious bugs because of the random behaviour. For them I never
found reproducible steps for over a year now.
I always search for bugs first, but when you either find nothing or large lists
over other issues, you can't do much against duplicates.
A lot of issues like this one are ignored for over 2 years now, and instead of
guarantee the standard features of a mail client (receiving mails properly, save
them on the right place and mark them right like they should be), all
concentration went to new features and a new config menu and so on...
A list with most of the bugs I've encountered (also non-repruducible ones) can
be found here:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=1777121