Closed Bug 311642 Opened 16 years ago Closed 9 years ago
Newsgroups: Confusing naming/naming inconsistency for kill, ignore, delete
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 Firefox/1.0.7 Build Identifier: Thunderbird version 1.0 (20041206) The naming of the actions "kill" (as in pressing K to kill a thread in e. g. newsgroups), "ignore" (that does the same) and "delete" (which can be used to "killfile") in newsgroup message filtering, confuses users, as can be seen from the many recurring questions about these features in the Thunderbird newsgroup. It seems to cause difficulties even for more seasoned users. The most inconsistent and misleading naming for the phenomenon is "Delete" in the lower pane of message filter settings, since in NG's, deleting normally refers to deleting a message on the NG server - something only the original poster or an admin can do in many/most NG's. Not the same as a local action. Consistently using "ignore" throughout would probably be less confusing. "Ignore thread" (later hopefully "Ignore subthread" too), "Ignore message", "Ignore sender" or "Ignore on filter selection". Plus "Kill" and "Killfile" in help index pointing to the parts about "Ignore". Possibly, "Delete message header" could be used for NG's in the message filter dialogue instead of the "ignore" line, and "Delete message on server" for e-mail, although it would break the consistency "ignore" might give. Ignore also has the advantage of implicating in itself that the actions take place locally. Reproducible: Always Expected Results: It should use some consistent naming convention for events as viewed and perceived from the user side, to avoid confusion. This can probably be done without being inconsistent towards the underlying technology.
I'm not a news expert, but from what I can see on TB17.0.6/WinXP, we mostly have what comment 0 requests: - From main three pane, view newsgroup - message > Ignore Thread (K) | Ignore Subthread (Shift+K) - Edit > Delete msg and it's no counterpart on msg context menu are disabled, and Ignore options are not offered (which looks like another RFE) So I'll close this wfm. Feel free to reopen if you feel otherwise.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 9 years ago
Resolution: --- → WORKSFORME
Summary: Confusing naming/naming inconsistency for kill, ignore, delete → Newsgroups: Confusing naming/naming inconsistency for kill, ignore, delete
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