31932 - NavQuirks mode doc - review & update?

Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME

(Documentation Graveyard :: Web Developer, defect, P3)

Description

[Scott A. Colcord]

This bug is being split off from #1044 as the result of issues raised there.  
The resolution of this bug has three stages:

1)  Document NavQuirks. In particular, list any HTML/CSS standards violations 
that result from it.  Then document the behavior of IE5 on each of those 
issues, and also list how the W3C spec says it should be done.  Make this 
document publicly available in some way.

2)  For each issue from #1, decide how Mozilla should behave as follows:  If 
IE5 matches the W3C spec, we should too, even in NavQuirks mode.  If IE5 
matches Nav4, we should leave the quirk in.  Otherwise, decide on a case-by-
case basis based on what will keep the most pages on the web working.  

3)  File new bugs for any issues found in #2 requiring a change in Mozilla's 
behavior.  Make sure that the bug description includes updating the document 
prepared in #1.

Comment 1

[Hixie (not reading bugmail)]

A good start to finding the places where we are using NavQuirks mode is:
   http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/search?string=mParseMode

Comment 2

[David Baron :dbaron: (⌚️UTC-4, no longer working on Mozilla)]

Other good places to start would be:
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/search?string=GetDTDMode
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/search?string=SetDTDMode
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/search?string=InStrictMode
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/search?string=SetQuirkMode
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/search?string=mNavQuirkMode
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/search?string=SetCompatibilityMode
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/search?string=GetCompatibilityMode
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/search?string=mCompatibilityMode
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/search?string=compatibility.mode

However, there are probably other places this info is stored, so one really
needs to trace its flow through the whole program...

Comment 3

[Pierre Saslawsky]

Most of the quirks are handled in CNavDTD, I think. Reassigned to rickg for an 

assessment of the problem.

Comment 4

[rickg]

I agree with the documentation idea. Marking remind.

Comment 5

[Henri Sivonen (:hsivonen) (temporarily away from Bugzilla)]

Even if the exact details of the Quirks mode are currently undocumented, the
existance of the Quirks mode (and how to force Standard mode) should be
documented conspicuously ASAP on www.mozilla.org to ease the work of Web
designers who are testing their markup and styles with Mozilla.

Comment 6

[Christine Hoffman]

Verified REMIND

Comment 7

[Hixie (not reading bugmail)]

Marking "relnote". We need to mention this in the release notes even if we have
not yet documented the complete list of quirks.

Comment 8

[Henri Sivonen (:hsivonen) (temporarily away from Bugzilla)]

Split the preliminary documentation of the existance of the quirks mode as bug

36045.

Comment 9

[fantasai]

Would a template help? I wrote up a template and a sample form:
http://www.escape.com/~fantasai/MozQuirks/index.html

BTW, shouldn't this be moved to Documentation?

Comment 10

[Hixie (not reading bugmail)]

Reopening and moving to Future...

Comment 11

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

We need to relnote the existence of Quirks, certainly...

Gerv

Comment 12

[fantasai]

The existence of Quirks is covered by bug 36045.

BTW, why is this one relnote-user and 36045 relnote-devel?

Comment 13

[David Baron :dbaron: (⌚️UTC-4, no longer working on Mozilla)]

I just wrote a draft list at
http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~dbaron/mozilla/quirklist
based on the URLs above.

Taking this bug.

Comment 14

[David Baron :dbaron: (⌚️UTC-4, no longer working on Mozilla)]

With the checkin of bug 55264,
http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~dbaron/mozilla/doctypes is now accurate
documentation.

Comment 15

[David Baron :dbaron: (⌚️UTC-4, no longer working on Mozilla)]

http://mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/quirks/

Comment 16

[Florian Scholz (Open Web Docs)]

Closing this very old bug. Please open a new bug in the "Developer Documentation" product (to get on MDN's radar), if there is still an issue that is worth a bug.

Information discussed above lives here on MDN now:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mozilla_Quirks_Mode_Behavior
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Quirks_Mode_and_Standards_Mode