321498 - Few toolbar buttons

Status: RESOLVED INVALID

(Thunderbird :: Mail Window Front End, defect)

Description

[Geert Poels]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5

Maybe I've missed something very trivial but is it correct that after a normal installation of Thunderbird, only eight new buttons can be added to the toolbar ?

No 
- find
- options
- save
- ...

for those who'd like those functions as buttons in the toolbar.

Reproducible: Always

Comment 1

[Magnus Melin [:mkmelin] (away, back Aug 4)]

Yep, it's normal. If you want more buttons, there are extensions that add some more, e.g. Buttons! https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=106&application=thunderbird

Comment 2

[Geert Poels]

It's not abnormal but I find it weird to allow people to customize their toolbar buttons without actually allowing them to add some basic functions of the application.

Comment 3

[Shai Berger]

Well, my favorite is "Mark All Read", which is not supplied by "Buttons!" (one of the buttons available by default, "Mark", opens a menu including "Mark All as Read", which is almost as good, but that button is disabled unless a specific message is chosen). And I join the previous poster: Requiring an extension to put an existing command into the toolbar is a questionable design decision.

Comment 4

[Magnus Melin [:mkmelin] (away, back Aug 4)]

->INVALID, don't see how this bug would help anything

Comment 5

[Geert Poels]

Wouldn't help anything ?
I have to find the first person whose uses Thunderbird(or Firefox) as it is.
Themes, extensions, column chooser, movable toolbars, ... .
All of these allow people to customize their environment.
Some just for the looks but most for reasons of PRODUCTIVITY.
Customization is an extension of the way people work and think.
Dismissing this as not useful gives some insight in what importance UI has to you.
BTW : Take whatever application in the world, each and everyone of them have a find button.

Comment 6

[Shai Berger]

(In reply to comment #4)
> ->INVALID, don't see how this bug would help anything
> 

Could you please be a little more specific?

In case this was unclear -- this bug, as I understand it, makes two claims:

1) If a command is available in a menu, one should be able to add it to a toolbar.

2) This should be a general feature of the application, and not require special code for each command

I don't know enough about writing extensions to tell if this can be done generally within an extension; even if it can, I still think this belongs in the core app.

Of course, developers may disagree and say "I think this functionality belongs in an extension". This would be accepted quite a bit better than your slap in Geert's and my faces.

Comment 7

[Magnus Melin [:mkmelin] (away, back Aug 4)]

I'm not saying more buttons are necessarily wrong, just that making a bug "i want more buttons" won't help. If you want a search button, file a RFE bug for that (if not already filed), and so on.

Currently there are buttons for most message *actions*, I have yet to see any application that makes all it's functionality available through buttons. (Yes, by all means, make an extension for it.)