When mail.server.x.useServerFilter is set, messages caught by filter should be marked as junk

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MailNews Core
Filters
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enhancement
UNCONFIRMED
12 years ago
7 years ago

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(Reporter: Jim Alexander, Unassigned)

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Description

12 years ago
User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.2) Gecko/20060308 Firefox/1.5.0.2
Build Identifier: version 1.5.0.2 (20060426)

When mail.server.x.useServerFilter is set to trust SpamAssassin, SpamPal, etc., any messages caught by that filter should be marked as junk, as well as treated as the user specifies in the Junk Mail Controls. Right now, messages caught by SpamAssassin by my server are correctly moved to my junk mail folder, but they are not marked with Junk status. This means that searches and filters that are looking for Junk status don't work for the SpamAssassin-marked messages, the messages are not shown as having Junk status in the GUI, etc.

Optionally, the bayesian classifier should be able to learn from the server's spam decisions as well. If you have a pretty effective server-side spam classifier, those examples a great resource for the bayesian classifier to exploit.


Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Use a server that uses SpamAssassin, SpamPal, etc.
2. Set the junk controls to trust the server-side classification.
3. Download a message that the server has correctly classified as spam.

Actual Results:  
Thunderbird doesn't assign junk status to the message.

Expected Results:  
Thunderbird should assign Junk status to the message.

Comment 1

12 years ago
Using build: version 3 alpha 1 (20060614)

Comment 2

12 years ago
Using Windows build: version 3 alpha 1 (20060614)

Comment 3

12 years ago
Never mind the comment, wrong bug number ;(

Comment 4

12 years ago
This is still the case in build
version 2 beta 1 (20061114)

Comment 5

11 years ago
(In reply to comment #0)
> User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;
> rv:1.8.0.2) Gecko/20060308 Firefox/1.5.0.2
> Build Identifier: version 1.5.0.2 (20060426)
> 
> When mail.server.x.useServerFilter is set to trust SpamAssassin, SpamPal, etc.,
> any messages caught by that filter should be marked as junk, as well as treated
> as the user specifies in the Junk Mail Controls. Right now, messages caught by
> SpamAssassin by my server are correctly moved to my junk mail folder, but they
> are not marked with Junk status. This means that searches and filters that are
> looking for Junk status don't work for the SpamAssassin-marked messages, the
> messages are not shown as having Junk status in the GUI, etc.

SA messages caught by "trust junk mail headers set by" indeed should get marked as junk (I just read this today, probably in a bug, but I can't find it ATM).  And as you have seen, should go to another folder if that junk option is set, but trust does not train the bayesian filter.

I don't see this problem with version 3.0a1pre (2007120503) on vista, no filters, move to local junk folder, trust and adaptive turned on.

If you still see this problem in version 2, can you try a trunk build?
 ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/nightly/latest-trunk/


> Optionally, the bayesian classifier should be able to learn from the server's
> spam decisions as well. If you have a pretty effective server-side spam
> classifier, those examples a great resource for the bayesian classifier to
> exploit.

there are reasons not to do this.  If you need it search to see if a bug is already filed against it and if not please create a new bug.

ref: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Help_Documentation:Dealing_with_Junk_E-mail
Assignee: mscott → nobody
(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #0)
[...]
> > Optionally, the bayesian classifier should be able to learn from the server's
> > spam decisions as well. If you have a pretty effective server-side spam
> > classifier, those examples a great resource for the bayesian classifier to
> > exploit.
> 
> there are reasons not to do this.  If you need it search to see if a bug is
> already filed against it and if not please create a new bug.
> 
> ref:
> http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Help_Documentation:Dealing_with_Junk_E-mail

So: WONTFIX ?

Updated

9 years ago
Component: General → Filters
Product: Thunderbird → MailNews Core
QA Contact: general → filters
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