highlight lines i write (and write them to the server tab)

RESOLVED WONTFIX

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RESOLVED WONTFIX
13 years ago
12 years ago

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(Reporter: myk, Assigned: rginda)

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(Depends on: 1 bug)

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Description

13 years ago
In addition to looking back through conversations for the things people wrote to me, I often look for the things I wrote, and that's hard, since my own lines aren't highlighted in the channel tabs, and they also aren't written to the server tab.  It'd be much easier for me to find my own writing if they were.

Hannibal suggests that the generic message filtering implementation over in bug 252848 will support this case.

Comment 1

13 years ago
What are you actually asking for? Please be *a lot* clearer.

If it's applying your stalk list to your own text, it's WONTFIX. Other things will likely just be dups of bug 252848 anyway.
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Comment 2

13 years ago
(In reply to comment #1)
> What are you actually asking for? Please be *a lot* clearer.

I'm asking for the lines of dialogue that I write to be highlighted and also copied to the server tab.  For example, in the following conversation, where my nickname is "myk", currently only line two, in which my nick is mentioned, is highlighted and copied to the server tab:

<myk> hi
<joe> hi, myk
<jim> hi

I'd like line one, which I wrote, to also be highlighted and copied.

It sounds like bug 252848 will provide this capability, but I think it's still worth having a separate bug, since this bug provides a specific use case for the feature being developed in that bug.

Put another way, if the Chatzilla developers decided not to implement generic filtering, or to implement it only in a much later release, they might still reasonably decide to implement support for this use case.  Thus it's worth tracking it separately, even if in the end its fix is the implementation in the other bug.

Comment 3

13 years ago
I disagree. This request, as stated, is WONTFIX. Highlighting every line you write - and copying it - would be immensely annoying and completely piss-off most users.

Comment 4

13 years ago
The feature as described is useless and annoying to most, and certainly is not worth effort in being done seperately (it would have to be a default-off option). Bug 252848 more than covers this dubious use case.

If bug 252848 is dropped, this feature is still not worth the implementation effort IMHO, hence I'm resolving it now.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 13 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
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Comment 5

13 years ago
Bug 252848 is about adding a generic filtering mechanism.  That'd probably enable me to implement the functionality requested in this bug, although using such a feature is exponentially more complicated, and there doesn't seem to be traction for fixing that bug.

I think it makes sense to solve specific problems with a general solution pending, if the general solution is likely to take a while to fix.  And it also makes sense to provide simple, targeted UI for performing common tasks, even if generic UI is available for that task.

To my mind, this request fits those categories, since the fix for bug 252848 looks to be a long way off, and I think users would be likely to appreciate this feature if it were made available to them.

But I understand that you disagree, so I'll wait for bug 252848 or look to an extension to provide this functionality.

Comment 6

13 years ago
There is nothing common about this. Just to make that clear: not a single person in #chatzilla has ever requested anything like this, in the years ~6 I've been there.

I am also more aware than you about the timescales involved in upcoming bugs. Bug 252848, for example, is currently targeted for release in version 0.9.77, due in about two months.

There's quite a chance it'll drop back a release or maybe two (each about one month) if there are specific implementation issues, but I would much rather people spent the time needed to implement that than consider an uncommon and annoying specific use of it.

Also, it would be absolutely trivial to make a motif that highlighted your lines the same as "important" ones. If you actually need the copying, it wouldn't be hard to script.
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Comment 7

13 years ago
(In reply to comment #6)
> There is nothing common about this. Just to make that clear: not a single
> person in #chatzilla has ever requested anything like this, in the years ~6
> I've been there.

That doesn't mean it wouldn't turn out to be popular.  Users often don't see the need for an enhancement until it is made available to them, or they identify a problem without being able to articulate its solution.  I suspect many users would find this feature useful.

> I am also more aware than you about the timescales involved in upcoming bugs.
> Bug 252848, for example, is currently targeted for release in version 0.9.77,
> due in about two months.

In bug 252848, comment 2, written over a year ago, hannibal says he'll be working on the bug over the following several weeks and hopes it won't take longer.  Perhaps there's new momentum on the bug now, but it's quite common for fixes to take longer than anticipated, so the fact that the bug has been targeted for an upcoming release is not good reason to hold other valuable fixes for it.

> Also, it would be absolutely trivial to make a motif that highlighted your
> lines the same as "important" ones. If you actually need the copying, it
> wouldn't be hard to script.

Good to know.  If I find some time, I'll look into doing this.

Comment 8

13 years ago
I'm not "holding" another fix - I'm saying the "other fix" is utterly useless.

Whether you get that or not doesn't really matter; you've failed to provide a compelling reason for the feature.
(In reply to comment #8)
> I'm not "holding" another fix - I'm saying the "other fix" is utterly useless.
> 
> Whether you get that or not doesn't really matter; you've failed to provide a
> compelling reason for the feature.

actually, a compelling use case IMO, from one specific use case perspective, is along myk's general idea - to go back to a past conversation, which may have in fact happened several days ago over a period of hours or even days over a busy channel and show it without all the channel chatter, a collapsed view if you will. 

A more general case, and perhaps a more useful example, is a collapsed view for messages going to/from *anyone*, not just "me".   Bug 252848 doesn't address this example, so perhaps this is an idea/bug of a different nature.

the question of whether it is a common request or would be generally popular is a completely different issue.

Comment 10

12 years ago
If it's a buys channel, you'll have talked a lot yourself since the conversation in most cases; network views only hold 200 lines (configurable) by default, and it is remarkably pointless to keep *all* your lines.

One feature that might be useful to the OP here would be the ability to load existing log files, and filter the lines.
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Comment 11

12 years ago
(In reply to comment #10)
> If it's a buys channel, you'll have talked a lot yourself since the
> conversation in most cases;

Not in most of my cases.  My commonest use case is finding a conversation I had in irc.mozilla.org#developers, a busy channel where I don't talk a lot myself.
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