342295 - Allow Option-tab to toggle tabfocus mode

Status: VERIFIED WONTFIX

(Camino Graveyard :: Accessibility, enhancement)

Description

[jonathan chetwynd]

keyboard users need a means of navigating links in default mode.

following Safari in default mode:

alt+tab does everything and tab does forms

when checked in preferences parity is reversed and:

tab does everything and alt+tab forms

see: GUI https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277706

Comment 1

[Chris Lawson (gone)]

Tweaking summary and CCing pink and smfr for opinions.

Comment 2

[Chris Lawson (gone)]

BTW, IE 5 did this too, which is presumably where Safari got the idea.

I'd be in favour of this myself.

cl

Comment 3

[froodian (Ian Leue)]

This should be UNCO.  

(I'm against this btw, since it requires by design that we only expose two states, 3 and 7, for the pref, and I like the idea of exposing 3 5 and 7 of the pref (allowing users to tab to links but not form controls), as currently proposed in bug 277706))

Comment 4

[Mike Pinkerton (not reading bugmail)]

what does "toggle" mean when we have multiple options set in bug 277706?

Comment 5

[Chris Lawson (gone)]

(In reply to comment #4)
> what does "toggle" mean when we have multiple options set in bug 277706?

Basically, we either need to implement this bug, or that one, but not both. See comment 2 and comment 0 -- this RFE, as requested, is exactly what Safari does.

cl

Comment 6

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

I'm in favor of WONTFIXing this bug and going with the UI in bug 277706.  This seems undiscoverable and difficult to remember, while the checkboxes in bug 277706 make setting your tabbing preferences simple and also provides the maximum flexibility.

Comment 7

[Chris Lawson (gone)]

(In reply to comment #6)
> I'm in favor of WONTFIXing this bug and going with the UI in bug 277706.  This
> seems undiscoverable and difficult to remember

How is this any more undiscoverable or difficult to remember than it is in Safari or IE?

cl

Comment 8

[Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email)]

FWIW, I'd never run into that shortcut.  Opt-tab to me is "insert tab in a text field when tab would otherwise move you to the next control."  Shouldn't we be using opt-tab to allow users to insert tabs in textfields, anyway?

Also, is this (toggle between links and no links tabbing) something that people will want to toggle often enough for us to give up a keystroke, especially since we (will) already expose the checkbox for including links?

Comment 9

[froodian (Ian Leue)]

WONTFIX per pinkerton.