AllAdvantage is one of those "get paid for surfing the web" services. You download an custom application that displays a viewbar. The viewbar shows ads and sniffs your mouse and window focus. You get paid "by the minute". From the FAQ: http://www.alladvantage.com/ref_center.asp?refid=AZC687 "You accumulate payable when you are actively surfing the web. Actively means that you are viewing World Wide Web pages in your browser (not using other applications such as Usenet newsgroup readers or email programs) and that you are bringing up new page views by typing URLs into the address bar, scrolling down a displayed page, or by clicking on hyperlinks within Web pages. Your session will time out if there is no activity for several minutes. You know the Viewbar? is accumulating time when the head of the Infomediary Man at the left end of the Viewbar? is green. If it's red, you're not accumulating paid time. " In 4.7x, the AA viewbar recognizes when you're reading mail, composing mail, or browsing newsgroups, etc. It ONLY logs time (goes green) when you've got a dedicated browser window open. The viewbar will also launch the browser (4.7x, 3.x and/or IE) that's registered as the default HTML viewer if the browser is not running.
You can get a copy of the viewbar application at http://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refid=AZC687 They used to have a waiting period. Dunno if that still applies. I'll see if I can download a copy, tho you do need an account code/password to install it.
It's hard to believe that AllAdvantage would hard-code the list of valid WindowTitle handles (or whatever)into their viewbar app, tho I suppose it's possible. There's an "stress harness" (cheat) out there that lets you "get paid to sleep". This is interesting because it might shed some light on the internals. Launch the MYAdvantageHack you give it a list of N urls. You launch the viewbar You launch your browser The stress tester: 1) puts focus on browser window 2) generates mouse events every 20 seconds or so 3) every few mins (5 or so) it loads a new url from it's cycle list This seems to be enuf to defeat the "idle timeout" aspect of the viewbar app. The hack does NOT work with Mozilla.
I emailed them via their "Contact Us" link on their web page, asking if they have any plans of upgrading their Viewbar app to work with Netscape 6. Anyone have any ideas as to if this is a problem with the browser or the Viewbar app? I'm assuming it's a problem with Viewbar, but who knows. Marking PDT so people are aware of the problem.
Target Milestone: --- → M17
Putting on nsbeta2 radar...for review. this is not a top 100 site, is it?
alladvantage isn't a web site people visit, it's an application that people use to get paid for surfing the web. they have many many many users (I know four of my friends do it) and are one of those hot internet companies ($10M to $2.2B in a year hot) you wish you were at when they go public. It would be good to be sure that our browser works with their toolbar by the time we RTM. But I don't know if the problem is on our end or their end.
email@example.com (Mark Takacs, have you emailed teh alladvantages folkd to see if it might be a problem on thier end?
Asa, It looks like granrose did back on 4/5/2000 from the bugsplat notes.. -tak
This is a problem with Alladvantages viewbar software, and not with Mozilla. On the most basic level, the viewbar looks for the words 'Microsoft Internet Explorer' or 'Netscape Navigator' in the titlebar of the window. I've gotten the viewbar to log time on a properly renamed CRT Telnet window in the past. I'd say someone should email Alladvantage and ask them to recognize Mozilla, if someone is interested, and otherwise mark this invalid. clay
I emailed them way back when, but no response. If this were a Netscape internal bug I would say marketing should handle this since releasing a browser that does not work with AllAdvantage means releasing a browser that a lot of people aren't going to use. But since mozilla.org doesn't have a marketing team as far as I know, dunno who should be handling this. cc'ing eric krock for his input.
all types of this (get paid for surfing the web, spedia, alladvantage , and more dumb stuff) have to consider with the browser, not browser with them so mark that as invalid
All the evidence so far is that they need to update their app to recognize Mozilla and Netscape 6. No one has evidence of a problem on our side. Granrose has already evangelized; the rest is up to them. Marketing hasn't the cycles to keep after folks who have been notified and don't respond. Marking INVALID. If someone finds evidence that a problem with Mozilla is preventing their app from working, please reopen with details of the specific issue.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 18 years ago
Resolution: --- → INVALID
Sorry for the spam. New QA Contact for Browser General. Thanks for your help Joseph (good luck with the new job) and welcome aboard Doron Rosenberg
QA Contact: jelwell → doronr
verified. perhaps aol should buy em?
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
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