360565 - clean up old evangelism e-mail templates and figure out how to recharge evangelism work

Status: RESOLVED INCOMPLETE

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: Other, defect)

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[chris hofmann]

Comment 1

[Matthias Versen [:Matti]]

chris: Is this still needed ?

Comment 2

[Chris Lawson (gone)]

Different Chris, but we probably should audit all the current evangelism letter templates to make sure everything in them is relevant, especially the links. It'd be good to throw in some reliable third-party stats on Mozilla market share, too, which I don't believe are currently in there. A lot of people might not know they're excluding 20-40% of their potential customer base (or 100% in the case of Mac and Linux users, since IE doesn't exist on either platform).

Comment 3

[Matthias Versen [:Matti]]

The world changed and we don't need for example a german evangelism letter anymore. The market share is too high in Europe and many parts of the world.
There are only cases left like firefox vs gecko sniffing.

It's still difficult in other parts of the world like .cn or .kr but there are nearly no contributors for such areas.

My plan is to go through all the open evangelism bugs and you can close nearly all of them because they work now and many of them are working without a mail because many evangelism busga are several years untouched. 
After that i would like to close bugs from pages that are dead like a 5 year old private homepage which isn't working but the owner doesn't care.

Comment 4

[Chris Lawson (gone)]

Off the top of my head, I can think of three countries where IE-only sites are still far more common than they ought to be: the US, India, and Israel. At minimum, we need to make sure these evangelism letters are up-to-date.

(In reply to comment #3)

> There are only cases left like firefox vs gecko sniffing.

Which is, in itself, a very valid evangelism topic and needs to be addressed as well. Firefox market share arguments don't help here, unfortunately.

Comment 5

[Matthias Versen [:Matti]]

>Off the top of my head, I can think of three countries where IE-only sites are
>still far more common than they ought to be: the US, India, and Israel. At
>minimum, we need to make sure these evangelism letters are up-to-date.

I forgot israel and india but the U.S are only partially an issue. The higher market share of Safari helps with ActiveX cases and the NS4 layer issue should not be an issue anymore for up to date pages.

>Which is, in itself, a very valid evangelism topic and needs to be addressed as
>well. Firefox market share arguments don't help here, unfortunately.
Sure but I think they need a different evangelism letter which explaisn the difference between Firefox and Gecko. The barrier in such a case is lower because they only have to change their sniffing but not the sites html code.

Comment 6

[chris hofmann]

beyond gecko v. firefox sniffing we have problems in india, isreal, us as you mentioned plus mexico, china, korea, and the list goes on when you start to look at the details were problems exist and we need to redouble work to identify and help get sites cleaned up....

we are going to recharge the effort to get some stuff going in this area in a couple of weeks.

There is starting to be some stuff put together on https://wiki.mozilla.org/Evangelism to outline the plan

more soon.