36350 - slow cursor and slow switching between open browsers

Status: VERIFIED INVALID

(SeaMonkey :: General, defect, P3)

Description

[Kelly Theis]

From Bugzilla Helper:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; N; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m14) Netscape6/6.0b1
BuildID:    2000033112

If I have two open Netscape 6's I have a heck of a time going between the two.
It takes forever to access if it does at all.  One the same note, I was
inputting information into a form and wanted to copy it to notepad but the
cursor would not blink as to indicate that the action had occurred.  I had the
text highlighted finally, but the right click access was not available to tell
the computer to let me cut and paste it.

One other thing.  Why doesn't Netscape autocomplete url's?  Where did this
function go????  It's frustrating to type in a url that you've already been to
over and over again.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1.Go to any web form. (such as this one)
2.Type in a sample line.
3.Right click on the text to highlight it
4.Try to cut and paste (no function to do that comes up on my computer in
Windows 2000 Professional Retail - NOT BETA)


Actual Results:  You can't copy the text from the form to any other place.
Forms are not the best way to communicate, but companies insist on using
them...leaving a client with NO WAY to prove that they sent anything.  Cutting
and pasting this into a word document at least give one a time and date stamp
that is hard to argue with later when one finally contacts the company in question.

Expected Results:  Right click should bring up the same dialog it has always
brought up;
Undo
Cut
Copy
Paste
Delete
Select all


So!  I have no way of knowing if you will read this and no proof I sent it...
Even sad IE does the functions mentioned above.  Autocomplete and cut and paste...

One more thing.  In my Task Manager, Netscape is taking up 19-28!!! megabytes of
memory for each and every browswer iteration.  What the heck!  Even IE doesn't
take up more than 14 AT MOST, EVER for any iteration.  How much ram are you
expecting these poor people to have???

I am a computer technician (certified) and I can tell you with certainty that
most people still haven't gone beyone 64 and MOST are still at 32! (that's what
the computer companies are still selling even though ram is cheap FOR THEM)

Now that two browswers are open it shows ONE iteration of Netscape 6 at 32+
megabytes...so they will BOTH crash if the other does???  And  this is very high
overhead, guys.  Now it is up to 42 Megabytes!  And still only two browswers
up...because of the way you have this form set up... I am having trouble
"submitting" it.

Now I had to open 4.71 and close the Netscape 6... still at 36 megabytes!

Comment 1

[Andreas Franke (gone)]

Thanks for your bug report. To summarize, there are the following concerns:
1. switching between two open mozilla windows is slow
2. cursor doesn't blink as it should under certain circumstances
3. missing context menu with cut,paste etc. when having selected text
4. autocomplete for URLs does not work
5. bugzilla doesn't send confirmation after sending bug report
6. mozilla uses too much memory
I hope I haven't missed anything...

Please note that all these issues belong to different components of
the browser, so it's not possible to deal with all of them in a single
bug report.
Also note that 19 days is a pretty long time in rapid browser development.
It would help us very much if you could try out a newer build (e.g. milestone
M15 is out since 4/18) and file separate bugs for each problem you still 
encounter in it. You can't submit too _many_ bugs since there are enough people
around that will spot duplicates. You could mark this bug INVALID then.
Please also read the bug reporting guidelines. You can find them at
http://www.mozilla.org/quality/bug-writing-guidelines.html

ad 1) "switching between mozilla windows is slow"
      I can't see this, but I'm on linux.
      Maybe you could file a bug in which you describe the exact 
      setting (maybe even including which pages are displayed
      if that matters) and give the times you encounter and the times
      you would expect.

ad 2+3) There are some known problems with Copy, Cut & Paste, and there
        have been some recent changes, but I can't find the bug numbers
        at the moment. So it would really help if you could check with
        M15 and file separate bugs on every single problem you encounter
        with it.

ad 4) "autocomplete": 
      This is already covered in bug 10957 "[FEATURE] Auto-complete URL entry".
      It currently has 11 votes; it would certainly a good thing if you 
      voted for it, too. (Just go to 
	http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10957
      and click on the "Vote for this bug" link.)

ad 5) "bugzilla should confirm bug reports"
       As far as I remember, bugzilla does that after you have submitted
       a report. But anyway, you can file a bug against bugzilla if you like.
       For this, you can choose "Webtools" as product, and probably "bugzilla"
       or something similar as component.

ad 6) "mozilla uses too much RAM"
      There are still lots of memory leaks in mozilla. This is sad, but
      well-known. See e.g. bug 11935 "Mozilla is a memory hog.".

When you're encountering missing features from Navigator 4.x, please recall 
that more that 80% of mozilla has been rewritten from scratch. This takes time
and requires patience.

Please keep trying mozilla in the future. However, you might want to restrict
yourself to the milestones, or even wait for Netscape beta2, which will be
based on M17. It should be much more usable...

Comment 2

[Andreas Franke (gone)]

I just recognize that you refer to Netscape beta1, not the mozilla nightlies.
For Netscape releases, even such as 6.0PR1, please use the bug reporting form 
at http://help.netscape.com/forms/bug-client.html , and use bugzilla only for
bugs found in mozilla milestones and nightlies.
Thus marking INVALID. Sorry, but there is no politer option...

Comment 3

[Asa Dotzler [:asa]]

Sorry for the spam.  New QA Contact for Browser General.  Thanks for your help
Joseph (good luck with the new job) and welcome aboard Doron Rosenberg

Comment 4

[Doron Rosenberg (IBM)]

verified