Closed Bug 370273 Opened 17 years ago Closed 15 years ago

AMO Localization (da)

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(addons.mozilla.org Graveyard :: Localization, defect)

Product:
addons.mozilla.org Graveyard
Component:
Localization
Type:
defect
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
normal

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Status:
RESOLVED FIXED

People

(Reporter: bugzilla, Assigned: bugzilla)

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Attachments

(5 files, 12 obsolete files)

Danish categories
3.68 KB, text/plain
Details
Danish error404.thtml
1020 bytes, text/html
Details
sandbox.thtml
1.91 KB, text/plain
Details
Updated messages.po
49.94 KB, text/plain
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messages.po
94.03 KB, text/plain
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User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; da; rv:1.8.1.1) Gecko/20061204 Firefox/2.0.0.1
Build Identifier: 

Danish localization of messages.po

Should the four thtml pages also be localized by now?

Reproducible: Always
Attached file Danish (da) messages.po (obsolete) — 
Based on English revision 2082
Which "four thtml pages" ?
Assignee: nobody → clouserw
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
Ah, after a quick discussion, I think you're talking about the pages in /en_US/pages/.  If so, there are two that are ready to translate:

http://svn.mozilla.org/addons/trunk/site/app/locale/en_US/pages/sandbox.thtml
http://svn.mozilla.org/addons/trunk/site/app/locale/en_US/pages/error404.thtml

More info on localizing the sandbox.thtml is here: http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Shaver/Remora_Categories

If you have additional time, we could use translations of the categories and add-on types from here:

http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Shaver/Remora_Categories

They are "dynamic data" and we don't have a good way of putting them into the database right now, so if you just attach a text file here with the translations, I can put them in manually.
The .po file is live on preview:

https://preview.addons.mozilla.org/da/firefox/

Thanks.
Attached file Updated Danish messages.po (obsolete) — 
Based on English revision 2082
Attachment #254944 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attached file Danish categories — 
From http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Shaver/Remora_Categories

Based on version modified 19:41, 13 February 2007
I found some problems on the page that i don't know what to do about:

* Month names are in English
* English texts "Install dictionary" and "Install" on the dictionary page
* English dictionary is default
* The line with the Danish dictionary lists "danish | danish | Install (432 KB)" it should be "Danish | Dansk (da) | Installer (432 KB)"
* On plugins page: Acrobat Reader -> Mac OS X, "Unsupported" is in English
* The Thunderbird dictionary page lists dictionaries for 2.0. But it is not released yet.
* On Browse -> Extensions the title "Browse Extensions by Category" should be translated to "Gennemse udvidelser efter kategori" (note that "udvidelser" use a lowercase u)
* Is it possible for the preview site to send confirmation mail? I don't get any mail. I would like so see what the page looks like, if you are logged in.
* You have added my bugmail to some sort of mail list. Please be aware, that if i should be able so send mails to this list, i will send them from: mail at jesperkristensen dot dk, not bugzilla at jesperkristensen dot dk.
* There is no info on sandbox.thtml on the page you linked to

(In reply to comment #7)
> I found some problems on the page that i don't know what to do about:

> * You have added my bugmail to some sort of mail list. Please be aware, that if
> i should be able so send mails to this list, i will send them from: mail at
> jesperkristensen dot dk, not bugzilla at jesperkristensen dot dk.

I have changed your email to the new one.

> * There is no info on sandbox.thtml on the page you linked to
> 
Please see this email that was sent before you were added to the list: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/amo-l10n/2007-February/000014.html
Attached file Danish error404.thtml — 
Based on English rev 2082
Attached file Danish sandbox.thtml (obsolete) — 
Based on English rev 2082
Attachment #255138 - Attachment mime type: application/octet-stream → text/plain
Thanks, I added the two pages to trunk, r2189.
Attached file Updated (2) Danish messages.po (obsolete) — 
Based on English rev 2082
Attachment #255136 - Attachment is obsolete: true
This is in the trunk, too, r2190. Thanks!
Jesper: Regarding your question about the un-localized month names, we are now using PHP's strftime() function instead of date() so that the localizers don't have to give us a custom time format anymore, and also now the time format is correctly localized.
Which of these is most up to date and are anyone of them always up to date with trunk?

http://remora.stage.mozilla.com/
https://preview.addons.mozilla.org/

Are there more preview sites?
http://remora.stage.mozilla.com is always up to date with trunk (3 or 5 minute syncs, I think)

https://preview.addons.mozilla.org is our production tag.

(In reply to comment #6)
> Created an attachment (id=255138) [details]
> Danish categories
> 
> From http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Shaver/Remora_Categories
> 
> Based on version modified 19:41, 13 February 2007
> 

These are in the database.  Thanks.
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
There is an error on http://remora.stage.mozilla.com/da/firefox/browse/type:1

The title is:
Gennemse Udvidelser efter kategori

It should be:
Gennemse udvidelser efter kategori

Without a capital letter u
Category 72: Someone put two extra J in the end of the category name. Please remove.
Attached file Updated (3) Danish messages.po (obsolete) — 
Same English rev as before
Attachment #255235 - Attachment is obsolete: true
> There is an error on http://remora.stage.mozilla.com/da/firefox/browse/type:1
> 
> The title is:
> Gennemse Udvidelser efter kategori
> 
> It should be:
> Gennemse udvidelser efter kategori
> 
> Without a capital letter u
> 

That string is meant to be a title for the page, so we we're expecting all the important words to be capitalized (In English, that means capitalizing "Category" as well).  Would that be inappropriate in Danish?  (The line in the .po is 146)

> Category 72: Someone put two extra J in the end of the category name. Please
> remove.

I'll fix this

> Created an attachment (id=255766) [details]
> Updated (3) Danish messages.po
> 
> Same English rev as before

This is committed - thanks.
> That string is meant to be a title for the page, so we we're expecting all the
> important words to be capitalized (In English, that means capitalizing
> "Category" as well).  Would that be inappropriate in Danish?  (The line in the
> .po is 146)

That would indeed be inappropriate in Danish. Only the first letter of the first word in a sentence (and the fist letter of nouns and abbreviations) is capitalized, title or not. To capitalize all important words is just incorrect. As far as I have seen, the word from the database is not used as the first word in a sentence anywhere, because the menu item text comes from the .po file. So for Danish removing the capitalization would work.

BTW, it is not good i18n practice to re-use a string in different places.
Replace "nouns" with "names" in my previous comment.
Ok, I'll remove capitalization for "udvidelse", "udvidelser", "tema", and "temaer"
My Accept Languages is: (1) da (2) en-us (3) en, but remora choose German (de) as default. It worked fine earlier.
You committed third update of messages.po where? It is not online on remora.stage.mozilla.com or preview.addons.mozilla.org
(In reply to comment #26)
> You committed third update of messages.po where? It is not online on
> remora.stage.mozilla.com or preview.addons.mozilla.org
> 

It should be on remora.stage.m.c right now, but not preview.a.m.o
(In reply to comment #27)
> It should be on remora.stage.m.c right now, but not preview.a.m.o

remora.stage isn't updating automatically anymore, which is why it's not there yet.
Attached file messages.po (obsolete) — 
Updated to match en-US rev 2409 on trunk
Attachment #255766 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #257257 - Attachment mime type: application/octet-stream → text/plain
Attached file sandbox.thtml — 
Updated to match en-US rev 2409 on trunk
Attachment #255232 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #257258 - Attachment mime type: application/octet-stream → text/plain
Attached file Updated messages.po — 
Your last update had a duplicate message definition (lines 530 and 539) so this is an update that removes that.
Attachment #257257 - Attachment is obsolete: true
The latest attachments are all in SVN (r2426) and will be pushed to preview with the next update.  Thanks.
Attached file messages.po (obsolete) — 
Updated to en-US rev 2512 on trunk
Thanks for the update - it's in SVN (r2527).
Attached file messages.po (obsolete) — 
Updated.

devcp_* and editors_* not localized. Are partial localization like this ok with you?

There are a couple of more files in en-US. Do you have any idea when those are ready for l10n?

Do you have any news on the problems on the dictionary page mentioned in bug 370751 ?
Attachment #258109 - Attachment is obsolete: true
> Created an attachment (id=258691) [details]
> messages.po
> 

Changes are in SVN (r2714)


> devcp_* and editors_* not localized. Are partial localization like this ok with you?

They aren't ideal, but we're not rejecting the translations if they aren't complete.  Since they weren't available until recently, it's kind of unfair to expect that fast of a turnaround.  Of course, I support getting them translated soon though. :)

> There are a couple of more files in en-US. Do you have any idea when those are
> ready for l10n?

If you're talking about the files in 
http://svn.mozilla.org/addons/trunk/site/app/locale/en_US/pages/ , then they are all ready for translation (except for privacy.thtml - we're not accepting translations of that at this point in time).  If you're talking about different pages, please specify.

> Do you have any news on the problems on the dictionary page mentioned in bug
> 370751 ?

Any news/updates will be added to that bug.

Thanks.


I can see that you renamed "user_email_confirm_account" to "user_email_confirm_account_nopass" in the en_US po file.

In the Danish po file, you removed the translation and inserted the English text.

What was wrong in the danish text? The English text hasn't changed. If you think the translation of the email wasn't appropriate, please let me know what should be changed.
Oops, apologies. I changed all the locales that were up to date already; at least I thought I did. Turns out, I forgot Danish.

If you have an updated .po file with changes I have to make, please re-enable the tag you mentioned (and remove the English one); or if this is the only change, please let me know and I do it myself.

Thanks.
This is the only change.
Attached file messages.po (obsolete) — 
Updated with new strings
Attachment #258691 - Attachment is obsolete: true
There was a "fuzzy" tag left on line 451, but the translation looked complete so I removed it - please let me know if you left it there on purpose.  Otherwise, this is in SVN, r3000.  Thanks.
Attached file messages.po (obsolete) — 
Synced with en-US rev 3198 and sorted to match en-US file.
Attachment #259879 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Updating bug title to be in line with localizers' guide (http://wiki.mozilla.org/Update:Localizers)
Summary: gettext for AMO (da) → AMO Localization (da)
Attached file messages.po (obsolete) — 
Corrected typo
Attachment #261003 - Attachment is obsolete: true
I committed the latest version to the trunk, SVN r3333. Thanks.
Attached file messages.po (obsolete) — 
Synced to r3378
Attachment #261796 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Component: Public Pages → Localization
QA Contact: web-ui → l10n
Version: unspecified → 3.0
Update is in svn, r

When I tried to compile it, I got:

messages.po:3211: inconsistent use of #~
messages.po:3214: inconsistent use of #~
msgfmt: found 2 fatal errors

I tweaked the .po and the version in SVN has those errors fixed.

I'm also reassigning this bug to you to be consistent with the other bugs and more accurate overall.  AMO devs will still get email when the bug is changed.
Assignee: clouserw → bugzilla
Status: ASSIGNED → NEW
Attached file messages.po — 
One string changed
Attachment #261980 - Attachment is obsolete: true
in svn, r3455
Revision: 3463 and 3466
Author: fligtar@gmail.com
Message: updated .mo's and .po's

You added some strings and marked them fuzzy. All added strings are in parts not localized into Danish, so you can remove the fuzzy tags in the Danish .po file if you like.

You also messed up the line breaks in the file (revision 3463). It is much harder to localize the file if you constantly move things around, so that they aren't in the same place as in the English file. Please either update the Danish file, so that it matches the English file, or don't update it at all. If you have some automated tools that messes up the files, please exclude the Danish .po file, and I will keep it updated myself.
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Actually, they are marked fuzzy so you can find them. We had multiple localizers complain that they can't easily distinguish new strings if we don't mark them fuzzy.

Also, the files are sorted by alphabet so that you can easily find strings you are searching for. The line numbers will naturally differ from the English file (because some translations will always be shorter or longer in different languages), but the order will stay the same.

Does this help?
It is not a big problem, but it would still be nice if the line breaks and sorting order could stay the way I put them.
Hi,

This is just a friendly reminder that I'm sending to all the AMO L10n bugs:

The 3.2 redesign is going live in just over a week and a half.  If you can't make the schedule or you have any questions please let me know.  If you've already updated your locales, thanks so much - they're looking great. :)
I am going to do the late-changes in the weekend.

Statistics are not translated yet. I would like to know how many addons are likely to make their stats public before using time on translating that section.
(In reply to comment #56)
> I am going to do the late-changes in the weekend.
> 
> Statistics are not translated yet. I would like to know how many addons are
> likely to make their stats public before using time on translating that
> section.
> 

English fallback won't work for the statistics strings.  If someone browses the site in the da locale and looks at the pages, all they'll see is a bunch of placeholders. :(
(In reply to comment #57)
> English fallback won't work for the statistics strings.  If someone browses the
> site in the da locale and looks at the pages, all they'll see is a bunch of
> placeholders. :(
> 

That sounds strange, because I have copied the English strings into my .po file.

I might translate the strings at some time later, but I don't have time now, and the time I have for Mozilla is going to Firefox 3.
(In reply to comment #58)
> (In reply to comment #57)
> > English fallback won't work for the statistics strings.  If someone browses the
> > site in the da locale and looks at the pages, all they'll see is a bunch of
> > placeholders. :(
> > 
> 
> That sounds strange, because I have copied the English strings into my .po
> file.
> 
> I might translate the strings at some time later, but I don't have time now,
> and the time I have for Mozilla is going to Firefox 3.
> 

Ah, as long as they aren't marked fuzzy that will work then.  And thanks for working on Firefox 3.  I know you guys put a bunch of effort in last weekend and that was awesome. :)
https://addons.mozilla.org/da/firefox/statistics/addon/2313

Some strings appear as "statistics_title_addon_stats", "statistics_summary_downloads_total_sincedate", etc.

They exist in the .po file (Through not translated), and they are not marked fuzzy. Why don't they show up on the live site?
I forgot to svn update before checking.

I can see they were marked fuzzy by someone other than me on 2008-03-19. Can you please tell me when you do such things? Wasn't such changes supposed to be announced in mozilla.dev.l10n.web?

And why are they marked fuzzy? The only change in en-US is the addition of three strings: app_compat_older_firefox_only, app_compat_try_old_version and app_compat_update_firefox. These changes seems to have nothing to do with the statistics strings.

I have updated the .po file and added the three missing strings. I hope it can be pushed live soon.
I updated category names a little more than an hour ago. When will the change become visible on the site?

Are the category descriptions used anymore? I cannot find them on the site.
> I can see they were marked fuzzy by someone other than me on 2008-03-19. Can
> you please tell me when you do such things? Wasn't such changes supposed to be
> announced in mozilla.dev.l10n.web?

Fred made a couple changes on that day, but I'm not sure what.  You are correct that any string changes should be announced on dev-l10n-web.

> And why are they marked fuzzy? 

I backed out some fuzzy flags in the revision after Fred because xgettext seems to mark any php-format string without placeholders in it as fuzzy.  Not ideal for our situation.

> I updated category names a little more than an hour ago. When will the change
> become visible on the site?

It's not unusual to see delays of >2 hours these days.  CC yourself on bug 425315 to get updates on this.

> Are the category descriptions used anymore? I cannot find them on the site.
> 

Neither can I.  I'll find out what the plan is there.

Thanks for your help.
> > Are the category descriptions used anymore? I cannot find them on the site.
> > 
> 
> Neither can I.  I'll find out what the plan is there.
> 

Justin says they are currently used in the Developer Tools and they'll be more prominent soon.
https://addons.mozilla.org/da/firefox/addon/7381

The text "Homepage" is in English, but it is translated in the .po file. Why?
(In reply to comment #66)
> https://addons.mozilla.org/da/firefox/addon/7381
> 
> The text "Homepage" is in English, but it is translated in the .po file. Why?
> 

The file is a bit out of date on the live site.  Unfortunately, our schedule got bumped due to the holiday so we're still a week away from it going live.  I posted about it here: http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2008/05/23/amo-343-update-scheduled-for-june-5th/


Mass-close of L10n bugs.  We're using the newsgroups to notify localizers about updates so there isn't much of a reason to leave these open.  If you have a specific case, feel free to reopen.

Thanks for all your help! :)
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 15 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Product: addons.mozilla.org → addons.mozilla.org Graveyard
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