Build ID: 2000052608 [anthonyd: feel free to take this one if you want it, per your tracking of bug 36848] This is split off from bug 36848, where anthonyd and I discussed this bug in more length/detail. Unlike NS 4.x, IE 5.x currently does not allow multiple selections between frames (i.e. you can't select text in one frame and then select it in another on the same page). This, IMHO, is a Good Thing - with multiple borderless frames that don't have scrollbars, it's nearly impossible for the average user to tell that the page he's using is divided into frames (Check out the URL above to see how tough it is, if not impossible, to visually distinguish). Thus, to the average user, it would appear that he's able to select two different sets of text on the same page at the same time. I think the ghosted selection method (discussed in length in bug 36848) would just be even more confusing in this scenario, and thus I think with regards to frames, multiple selections should not be allowed. This seems like it would prevent a lot of unnecessary confusion, since having multiple selections between frames doesn't even seem like much of an advantage. Still, I can understand those of you who will argue that for easily distinguishable framesets, multiple selections should be allowed. I realize it would be a big waste of time (and also a logical flaw in consistency to the advanced user who can recognize borderless, scrollbar-less frames) to specifically block multiple selections between frames that don't have borders or scrollbars. However, I would like to see some discussion here about what to do - nothing? no multiple selections? get rid of the confusing ghosting in this instance? I don't mind closing this bug up as a wontfix, but I'd like to hear some arguments first.
in 4.x you're right I can't easily select text from both frames. That I think is very confusing, as you state if a user sees the text and can't select it, I think that would be more confusing/frustrating than what we offer in 6.0. I would suspect that most users would think -- If I can see it, I should be able to select it, and then I should be able to copy it. In 6.0, the feedback is clear that you have 2 selections, one has focus and the other does not. I can't drag select across in 6.0 either. I can, however, in both 4.x and in 6.0, select text separately in both frames. In 4.x both selections look as if they are active. In 6.0, the one selection is grayed, as if it does not have focus. Granted, for the user who does not realize it is framed base, then yes that may be confusing at first. But, how confusing would it be for the user who has text selected in both frames and only gets to copy paste a portion of the selection? That to me seems to be more frustrating. I believe that the current state of 6.0 is correct: 1. cannot drag seelct across frames (same as 4.x) 2. can independently select within multiple frames (same as 4.x) 3. provide clear feedback as to the state of the selections (not what 4.x does)
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 18 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
OK, I can agree with that.
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
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