411100 - Firefox 2 productization, Telugu (te)

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Mozilla Localizations :: te / Telugu, defect)

Description

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

We're going to have a Telugu localization for Firefox 2.

Krishna, do you have any suggestions on changes to the list of search engines,
or the Feed readers? What would be a good news feed for Telugu?

http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox_web_services_guidelines is giving some
rationale, most of which should easily apply for Firefox 2 as well.

I guess we should be able to reuse some of our experience from other Indian
languages, i.e., yahoo.in and ebay.in, and stick to amazon.com. I think that
http://te.wikipedia.org/ is good, too, it has some 38000 articles.

Mic, any ideas on your side?

Comment 1

[Mic Berman]

hi
i have two suggestions 
can we add a dictionary search plug-in for Telugu, maybe Telugu to English and vice versa or whatever the other major language would be e.g., Hindi? maybe we could use: http://dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/brown/
and is there an RSS feed we could use that provides news or other pertinent information for Telugu?
thanks

Comment 2

[Veeven]

We can use Brown Dictionary. However, Telugu Wiktionary (te.wiktionary.org) is better. It has Brown's dictionary plus user-added words.

For news and information we can use Yahoo! Telugu News feed: http://in.telugu.yahoo.com/rss/news.xml

Comment 3

[Mic Berman]

Veeven - great, thanks for suggestion on te.wiktionary.org
great on telugu yahoo news feed.
we will need permission from wiktionary. can you obtain that from them?

Comment 4

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

So, I branched Telugu, unhooking dependency for bug 411097. Any pending changes need to land on the branch, and on trunk to build upon.

Mic, do we need a independent permission from wiktionary? It's just another wikimedia foundation project. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home

Comment 5

[Krishna Babu K]

 No changes are pending. Most of the translation work has done.
 The http://te.wiktionary.org/ page is under GPL licence. So i think we can use        the page.

Thanks
krishna.

Comment 6

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

It's actually not a license question for wiktionary, as that license only covers copying their content and putting it elsewhere. We're talking about pounding their servers. That'd be covered by terms of service, which at least the German version doesn't have.

Mic?

Comment 7

[arjuna rao chavala]

(In reply to comment #6)
> It's actually not a license question for wiktionary, as that license only
> covers copying their content and putting it elsewhere. We're talking about
> pounding their servers. That'd be covered by terms of service, which at least
> the German version doesn't have.
> 
> Mic?
> 

> covers copying their content and putting it elsewhere. We're talking about
> pounding their servers. That'd be covered by terms of service, which at least
> the German version doesn't have.
> 
> Mic?
> 

As per 
  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia#Hotlinking

(courtesy: Pradeep M, who is active on wikipedia)
adding as search plug in similar to google should be OK for telugu wiktionary.

For other uses of Dictionary, like installation  by users on their PCs for spell checking on  when filling webforms. we should  download entire dictionary from a wiktionary dump and make it available as an add -on. Seems to be the way other language contributors of firefox tried.

Comment 8

[arjuna rao chavala]

Attachment: Clarification from wiki foundation on linking telugu wiktionary

Wiki Foundation clarified that no permission is needed for linking Telugu wiktionary as per the enclosed attachment(pdf) file

Comment 9

[Mic Berman]

so it seems we are covered by Wiki Media Foundation general permission and they are now aware of what we're doing vis a vis site traffic (Comment #6)
so we are ok with telugu wiktionary from them and for us

Comment 10

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Would it be a good idea to use the eBay India plugin for Telugu, as we're doing for the other Indian locales? See bug 430435 for the latest version.

Comment 11

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Err, sorry, same for yahoo.in, though those plugins are not in the above bug.

Comment 12

[Krishna Babu K]

hi,

We can go with yahoo.in or http://in.telugu.yahoo.com/ is also there.

thanks
krishna.

Comment 13

[Mic Berman]

Krishna per your suggestion for comment #12, we'd need to build a plug-in for that and then add the patch. you can likely use the in.yahoo plug in and adjust it to Telugu. i think Pike will help with this

Comment 14

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Attachment: use wiktionary, wikipedia, ebay.in, in.yahoo.com, drop answers

Trying to search on in.telugu.yahoo.com actually got me over to in.yahoo.com, even on a new window, so I just used the standard in.yahoo.com plugin. Together with that the regular eBay.in, and I created plugins for te.wikipedia and te.wiktionary. As discussed with Mic, we're considering wiktionary to be a replacement for answers, so that's falling of the list.

Comment 15

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Checked in on trunk, if we're good here, this would need to land on the branch, too.

amazondotcom
creativecommons
eBay-in
google
yahoo-in
wikipedia-te
wiktionary-te

is the current list.

Krishna?

RCS file: /l10n/l10n/te/browser/searchplugins/eBay-in.xml,v
done
Checking in eBay-in.xml;
/l10n/l10n/te/browser/searchplugins/eBay-in.xml,v  <--  eBay-in.xml
initial revision: 1.1
done
Checking in list.txt;
/l10n/l10n/te/browser/searchplugins/list.txt,v  <--  list.txt
new revision: 1.2; previous revision: 1.1
done
RCS file: /l10n/l10n/te/browser/searchplugins/wikipedia-te.xml,v
done
Checking in wikipedia-te.xml;
/l10n/l10n/te/browser/searchplugins/wikipedia-te.xml,v  <--  wikipedia-te.xml
initial revision: 1.1
done
RCS file: /l10n/l10n/te/browser/searchplugins/wiktionary-te.xml,v
done
Checking in wiktionary-te.xml;
/l10n/l10n/te/browser/searchplugins/wiktionary-te.xml,v  <--  wiktionary-te.xml
initial revision: 1.1
done
RCS file: /l10n/l10n/te/browser/searchplugins/yahoo-in.xml,v
done
Checking in yahoo-in.xml;
/l10n/l10n/te/browser/searchplugins/yahoo-in.xml,v  <--  yahoo-in.xml
initial revision: 1.1
done

Comment 16

[Krishna Babu K]

Hi,

yes pike. Thats ok.

thanks
krishna.

Comment 17

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

in-product pieces are FIXED with reference http://hg.mozilla.org/users/axel_mozilla.com/l10n-src-verification/index.cgi/file/142d78b1ec87/reference/MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH/te/.

Leaving this bug open still to track the serverside change for the feed.

Comment 18

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Moved the feed issue out to bug 445153, closing this one out.