Firefox 3 id Web Services setup

VERIFIED FIXED

Status

VERIFIED FIXED
11 years ago
10 years ago

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(Reporter: Pike, Unassigned)

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Description

11 years ago
Hi, filing this bug now to keep track of what I landed initially:

cat id/browser/searchplugins/list.txt 
google
yahoo-id
wikipedia-id

The yahoo plugin looks good to me, the wikipedia plugin needs an update to be shippable.

Mic, paste your comment on the further discussions?

Comment 1

11 years ago
Hi
here are some guidelines to choose local services for a better user experience:
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox_web_services_guidelines

I haven't found too many general search engines that are id specific but maybe there are some options for commerce engines? or specific purpose search like dictionaries? 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Comment 2

11 years ago
The SearchForm and template for google should be www.google.co.id and wikipedia's SearchForm
I copied from de and I forgot to change the SearchForm.

There is no search engine special for Indonesia. People use google and yahoo for searching and mostly yahoo for email and messenger. I have a request to put back amazon. For eBay, I observed none use that here, maybe because the shipping price is too high compare to the item. 
 
At first I want to include searchplugin for online en2id dictionary. There are 
several sites that provide this and I played to create searchplugins for each site. 
There is (in no particular order):

kamus.net
inbahasa.com (it's beta)
www.kamus.web.id
kamus-online.com
kamus.orisinil.com
kapanlagi.com
kamus.landak.com
www.sederet.com/translate.php
kamus.ugm.ac.id

Some sites are already provide opensearch links. About the quality of dictionary I don't know, I still have to do a little research. I will try to contact them also about what they think and their server capacity and let see what happened.

I also have contacted news provider for default rss sample. But I'll post a new bug about this.

Comment 3

11 years ago
Romi,
sounds great, LMK if you need help contacting people
in terms of RSS sample, can you post it here instead. I'd rather have one tracking bug for all web services unless there's a good reason I don't know about to create another bug.

thanks

Updated

11 years ago
Whiteboard: needs-patch

Comment 4

11 years ago
Created attachment 304807 [details] [diff] [review]
fx3-id searchplugin patch

Patch for searchplugins for fx3-id

For google:
Read http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3/L10n_Requirements#Google, no change to domain google.co.id required. 
Add hl={moz:locale} after searching other locales in lxr

For wikipedia-id
Change <SearchForm> to id.wikipedia.org
Attachment #304807 - Flags: review?(mic)

Updated

11 years ago
Whiteboard: needs-patch → needs-gavin

Comment 5

11 years ago
(In reply to comment #4)

> For google:
> Read http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3/L10n_Requirements#Google, no change to
> domain google.co.id required. 
> Add hl={moz:locale} after searching other locales in lxr
Apologize, should be
Add hl={moz:locale} in searchsuggestion after searching other locales in lxr

Comment 6

11 years ago
(In reply to comment #3)

> sounds great, LMK if you need help contacting people
> in terms of RSS sample, can you post it here instead. I'd rather have one
> tracking bug for all web services unless there's a good reason I don't know
> about to create another bug.

So I'll just post it here. I just hope that the bug's title is not misleading anyone.

The suspects of default rss samples are:
kompas.com: one of largest newspapers in Indonesia
antara.co.id (used to be government news agency)
okezone.com: subsidiary of an television company (rcti.co.id)
liputan6.com: news dept of television company (sctv.co.id), some html entities is still on the rss
tempointeraktif.com: another largest newspaper, I think there's something wrong with their server, its RSS is displayed as XML

My first choice is actually antara.co.id or kompas.com. But after contacting the first three, antara and kompas didn't reply my email. Only one okezone.com reply my email and their site-admin explain to me about their server and they will be happy to serve the rss. My contact is Istiadi Wibowo <istiadi.wibowo@okezone.com>, editor is at redaksi@okezone.com.

Actually many internet users in Indonesia are using detik.com. But as you can see they don't provide rss, and many complaints about mistype or bombastic news title also their ads-space is filling the window. So I don't think it is a good idea to ask them.
Comment on attachment 304807 [details] [diff] [review]
fx3-id searchplugin patch

The google.xml file in your localization is unused, since the en-US Google plugin overrides it. You should just remove the google.xml file in your localization since you should be using the en-US google.xml anyways.

The change to wikipedia-id.xml is fine, r=me on that.
Attachment #304807 - Flags: review?(mic) → review-
Whiteboard: needs-gavin → needs-patch

Updated

11 years ago
Summary: Firefox 3 id Search setup → Firefox 3 id Web Services setup

Comment 8

11 years ago
Romi
in terms of permission from okezone - if you can add their permission from their email here that'd be great. if not (because it's in indonesian) than your comment #6 is sufficient. thanks

Comment 9

11 years ago
(In reply to comment #7)

> plugin overrides it. You should just remove the google.xml file in your
> localization since you should be using the en-US google.xml anyways.
> 
> The change to wikipedia-id.xml is fine, r=me on that.
> 
Since CVS for me is not coming yet (bug 413283), should I put patch here (for wikipedia-id) or just wait until CVS is coming?


Comment 10

11 years ago
(In reply to comment #8)
> Romi
> in terms of permission from okezone - if you can add their permission from
> their email here that'd be great. if not (because it's in indonesian) than your
> comment #6 is sufficient. thanks
> 

Permission has been granted from okezone, I attach first lines from their email, I just cut the rest because it contains their server capacity and configuration, which I think should be kept private.

RSS feed URL is: http://sindikasi.okezone.com/index.php/news/RSS2.0

-- email --
From: Istiadi Wibowo <istiadi.wibowo@okezone.com>
Date: 20 Feb 2008 08:46
Subject: FW: Firefox 3 untuk Bahasa Indonesia dengan RSS default dari  okezone
To: romi@ewesewes.net

 -----Original Message-----
 From:
 Sent: 20 Februari 2008 14:32
 To: 'romihardiyanto@gmail.com'
 Subject: FW: Firefox 3 untuk Bahasa Indonesia dengan RSS default dari
 okezone
 
 Hallo Mas Romi,
 
 Kami dari IT Okezone siap mendukung untuk kebutuhan Mas Romi dibawah...
 Untuk mengenai kapasitas network & server kita sendiri untuk melayani
 RSS rasanya cukup kok...

-- end email --

-- translation --
 To: 'romihardiyanto@gmail.com'
 Subject: FW: Firefox 3 for Indonesian language with default RSS from
 okezone
 
 Hallo Romi,
 
 We from Okezone IT dept are ready to support your needs...
 About our network and server capacity, we think it is enough to serve our RSS content...

-- end translation --
(In reply to comment #9)
> Since CVS for me is not coming yet (bug 413283), should I put patch here (for
> wikipedia-id) or just wait until CVS is coming?

Ah, I didn't realize that you don't yet have CVS access. I've poked Marcia about your account request, hopefully it should be fixed today or tomorrow.
(In reply to comment #10)
> Permission has been granted from okezone, I attach first lines from their
> email, I just cut the rest because it contains their server capacity and
> configuration, which I think should be kept private.
> 
> RSS feed URL is: http://sindikasi.okezone.com/index.php/news/RSS2.0

Mic, are we good to go with this addition? I can file the IT request, if so.

Comment 13

11 years ago
(In reply to comment #11)
> 
> Ah, I didn't realize that you don't yet have CVS access. I've poked Marcia
> about your account request, hopefully it should be fixed today or tomorrow.
> 
Thanks everybody! Now, I wonder why is Mozilla-l10n-id tinderbox tree is not building also (bug 416362). Is this related?

Comment 14

11 years ago
comment 12 - yes good to go
I filed bug 419226 for the RSS feed change.
(In reply to comment #13)
> Now, I wonder why is Mozilla-l10n-id tinderbox tree is not building also (bug 
> 416362). Is this related?

That's waiting on bug 416363.
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Updated

11 years ago
Component: Other → id / Indonesian
QA Contact: indonesian.id
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Comment 17

11 years ago
Romi, for changes to the searchplugins, please always submit a patch for review before checking in. That stuff is pretty sensible, and it requires a good deal of experience to find all the pitfalls.

Comment 18

11 years ago
Comment on attachment 304807 [details] [diff] [review]
fx3-id searchplugin patch

Must remove google.xml and the patch for wikipedia will follow.
Attachment #304807 - Attachment is obsolete: true

Comment 19

11 years ago
Created attachment 307450 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch for wikipedia-id

New patch for wikipedia-id. Google is removed but is not committed yet.

I haven't commit anything yet, just want to be careful not interrupt with fx3b4 release and just waiting for tinderbox setup (it's on now).
Attachment #307450 - Flags: review?(l10n)

Updated

11 years ago
Whiteboard: needs-patch → needs-pike
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Comment 20

11 years ago
Comment on attachment 307450 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch for wikipedia-id

r-, the change isn't bad, but we should do a bunch more. The ShortName should be "Wikipedia (id)", and the plugin should follow the scheme set forth by http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/browser/locales/en-US/searchplugins/wikipedia.xml, which support search suggest, too. And possibly a new icon, I think.
Attachment #307450 - Flags: review?(l10n) → review-
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Comment 21

11 years ago
This needs a new patch.

Romi, we'll be closing the tree for a few days on 23:49 PST today, it'd be good if you could delay check-ins until the tree reopened.

Announcements like this are in mozilla.dev.l10n, more information on that on http://www.mozilla.org/community/developer-forums.html#dev-l10n.
Whiteboard: needs-pike → needs-patch

Comment 22

11 years ago
Romi - can you confirm you will you be ok with en-US defaults for 
RSS reader: Google, MyYahoo and Bloglines
mailto: GMail, Yahoo, Hotmail 
and 
calendar: Google, Yahoo and 30 boxes

Comment 23

11 years ago
Yes Mic, it's OK(In reply to comment #22)
> Romi - can you confirm you will you be ok with en-US defaults for 
> RSS reader: Google, MyYahoo and Bloglines
> mailto: GMail, Yahoo, Hotmail 
> and 
> calendar: Google, Yahoo and 30 boxes
> 
Yes, the defaults from en-US are OK.

Comment 24

11 years ago
cool, so i think from my perspective we're done (following on comment #14). what's left is final patch?

Comment 25

11 years ago
Created attachment 311310 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch for wikipedia-id (auto suggest, short name and icon)

Patch for wikipedia id, sorry I missed before.
Attachment #307450 - Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #311310 - Flags: review?(l10n)
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Comment 26

11 years ago
Comment on attachment 307450 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch for wikipedia-id

r+'ing this now, we'll need both this and the following patch.

Please check this in with a check-in comment referencing both this bug and my review. Something like "bug 416364, updating wikipedia plugin to match the others, r=l10n@mozilla.com" would work.
Attachment #307450 - Flags: review- → review+

Comment 27

11 years ago
(In reply to comment #26)
> (From update of attachment 307450 [details] [diff] [review])
> r+'ing this now, we'll need both this and the following patch.
I need clarification, is this means 'commit for attachment 307450 [details] [diff] [review] and remove google.xml as well'?
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Updated

11 years ago
Attachment #311310 - Flags: review?(l10n) → review+
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Comment 28

11 years ago
Yes, please remove google.xml as well.

And check-in both attachment 307450 [details] [diff] [review] and 311310.

Comment 29

11 years ago
Removing browser/searchplugins/google.xml;
/l10n/l10n/id/browser/searchplugins/google.xml,v  <--  google.xml
new revision: delete; previous revision: 1.1
done
Checking in browser/searchplugins/wikipedia-id.xml;
/l10n/l10n/id/browser/searchplugins/wikipedia-id.xml,v  <--  wikipedia-id.xml
new revision: 1.2; previous revision: 1.1
done
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Comment 30

11 years ago
Marking this bug FIXED, with en-US protocol handlers to start with. That'd be yahoo mail (mailto:) and 30 boxes (webcal:).

Reference is http://hg.mozilla.org/users/axel_mozilla.com/l10n-src-verification/index.cgi/file/c5be0703052d/reference/HEAD/id/
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 11 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
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Updated

11 years ago
Whiteboard: needs-patch

Comment 31

11 years ago
mailto: tested with yahoo
webcal: tested 30boxes

all searchplugins are correct (search form, autosuggest, icon, url)

verfified on Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; id; rv:1.9pre) Gecko/2008040604 Minefield/3.0pre
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
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Updated

10 years ago
Blocks: 439414
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